Yesha Callahan

HUD Proposes Plan to Racially, Economically Integrate Neighborhoods

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In an effort to provide racial and economic balance to some of the U.S’s most segregated communities HUD has proposed the federal rule, called “Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing“.  HUD stated that the country’s housing policies have not been effective at creating the kind of integrated communities the agency had hoped for, citing that some are too tilted toward rich or poor.

Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing” is currently under a 60-day public comment period and even though details are still forthcoming, many of people have already expressed their “outrage”.

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Dedrick Muhammad, the NAACP’s senior director of economics, says the policy could result in more access to economic resources for minorities.

“It’s not just having people of different colors live together just to do so,” he says. “African-Americans and Latinos are more likely to live in segregated communities, that are predominantly lower income, have less strong public resources, less schools and educational opportunities, employment opportunities. This kind of integration strengthens economic equality.”

But of course other’s don’t feel that way.

Ed Pinto, of the conservative American Enterprise Institute, told Fox News the rule was “just the latest of a series of attempts by HUD to social engineer the American people,” and cited failures of the public housing and urban renewal policies of the 1950s and 1960s, and of changes to house financing in the 1990s.

An extensive summary of the proposed bill can be read here.

 

  1. August 12, 2013 - Reply

    We’ll see how well this actually works to create integrated communities seeing as though white people make up about 40% of the the poor and as of last year recieved close to 70% of all government assistance.

  2. August 12, 2013 - Reply

    I don’t think this will be successful. The books American Apartheid and As Long As They Don’t Move Next Door prove government can legislate public space but not living space. People always find a way to self segregate.

  3. August 12, 2013 - Reply

    If Detroit vs. the suburbs is anything to go by, I doubt that this will gain any traction and it will possibly even harden the current boundaries. I admit that I can’t think of any practical short-term solutions.

  4. August 12, 2013 - Reply

    This is my opinion:

    When it comes to white folks and segregation, they only want segregation when it ONLY BENEFITS THEM. They love it when they’re the ones in control/have more power and benefits.
    I remember when I was a child, hearing the story about how my great-grandfather’s brother had his business burned down because it was a successful restuarant that only catered to black people and my relative made sure that his business catered only to black people.
    I have come up with that conclusion after experiencing a few cases of segregation (either self-imposed intentionally or otherwise).
    I am a NY native, so I have never experienced a segregated high school prom. I have teenaged twin cousins, who reside in a small town in Mississippi whose integrated high school had segregated proms. The prom wasn’t on school grounds and the functions were financially backed by students and the parents. My cousins asked me (and various other relatives) for help, so we did. Boy, did we donated (and had asked other people to donate). The ‘black prom’ raised closed to $40,000 for the prom. The committee managed to snag ‘top-line’ accomodations for the children’s prom.
    The committee members for the ‘white prom’ found out about how much money was raised for the black prom and then they proceeded to raise a stink about it. They demanded that the committee members give a half of the donated funds to their fund.
    Second example, throughout my teens, I lived in a segregated community (it was a combo of self-imposed and unintentional for some residents). In one section, there were white people (along some Asian families) and in another section, there were black people (different cultures but black nonetheless). I lived on the block that served as the border. I hated living there. My neighbors were delightful and was a pleasure living around them. We had a block association. Everyone was on ‘good terms’ with each other. Neighbors watched out for each other’s kids. Occasionally, a party was thrown for a neighbor (newlyweds, new parents, etc.)I hated living there because of the “neighbors” that lived on the next block. My mom used to joke that whenever they seen/heard the black neighbors enjoying life, they had to call the police to disrupt it. They even called the police because we were “disturbing the peace”… during our annual block party and at 7:00 in the evening time.
    I have a few examples. But like I said, they only want segregation when it benefits them.

  5. August 12, 2013 - Reply

    This idea is stupid and it won’t work. There is no law requiring higher income people to live in the same neighborhood as low income people. Once the low income people move in, the high income people will run out. That’s how it happens, that’s how it’s always has happened. It’s a cat and mouse game. Instead of moving low income people into high income areas, why not just help the low income people where they are now. Jobs, training, and education will help poorer communities more than moving them into higher income areas. Honestly, white flight is real, and it has it’s effects, anyone can see that, whether we want to admit it or not.

  6. August 12, 2013 - Reply

    No one wants to live in a community of people poorer than them if they can afford better. Even people who make their livelihoods helping the poorgo home to nicer neighborhoods if that’s what they can afford

    • August 12, 2013 - Reply

      @Tina

      Seems like they’re slowly trying to implement a socialist society to me.

  7. August 12, 2013 - Reply

    Sorry i’m against this also First the rich get left out of this policy they will find a out, . it really going to be focused on middle and lower income people ,Also please understand this was done before to undermine black middle class areas. I mean what is government going to do bus poor whites from the trailer parks to the projects, subsidize low income people so they can live in high income areas.

    Fox is going to have a field day with this one

  8. August 12, 2013 - Reply

    The committee members for the ‘white prom’ found out about how much money was raised for the black prom and then they proceeded to raise a stink about it. They demanded that the committee members give a half of the donated funds to their fund.
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    Did they get what they were asking for? I hope not

  9. August 12, 2013 - Reply

    Well here are a few points
    1. So the gentrification that going in Harlem is ok but when we want people from lower income neighborhoods to move into middle class/upper income neighborhoods it’s an issue.
    2. Some one mentioned this already. But why don’t we work on rebuilding the broken communities instead of just moving the poor. When this country has an issue with poor people they just move them around like an old pair of shoes in a closet. Trust community groups, landlords and property owners won’t let but so many low income residences be built in their neighborhood. So what happens to the people who still live in the low income neighborhood?
    3. Didn’t this kind of happen in Chicago already when they tore down those big project buildings on the Southside (if someone is from Chicago please correct me if I’m wrong). It was in the 90’s and the city called it self separating the gangs and cleaning up the area.
    4. Trust this is going to create a line/separation between the lower middle class income wise (think of your everyday blue color worker or teacher etc..) and the poor. Trust people making enough to live in gated communities or places like Scarsdale, Hartsdale, and Pelham won’t be affected.

  10. August 12, 2013 - Reply

    In nyc there are tons of buildings where mix income people can stay for an affordable price, in good places. its call the housing lottery and it works there.. but then again thats new york city

  11. August 12, 2013 - Reply

    I don’t like this proposal. I don’t think it will be successful at all.

  12. August 12, 2013 - Reply

    No. Simply put. Fix the problem where it is….there are too many neighborhoods that need rebuilding to just have them abandoned but uprooting the people. This has NEVER worked and it won’t work now.

  13. August 12, 2013 - Reply

    @geenababe

    Fortunately, no, the funds weren’t divided amongst both communities. One of the students’ parents knew a lawyer that managed to nip that bud, due to going over the ‘fine print’ of the school’s guidelines about having off-the-grounds’ functions. The rule of “whatever is donated belongs to the organization” had shut down the committee’s attempts.
    But, I do have a hunch that the white prom’s committee will try to have those rules altered during this year’s school season.

    • August 12, 2013 - Reply

      @MimiLuvs

      Good for them! White folks want to eat their cake then try to regurgitate milkshake; life doesn’t work that way. They wanted separate, and they got pittance in return – very fitting. Kudos to the kids for standing up for themselves.

  14. August 12, 2013 - Reply

    I personally say let that BE!! I do not want some low class illiterate backwoods trailer trash uneducated family moving in next door to me…we worked hard to maintain our lifestyle a lifestyle handed down by hardworking educated ancestors…no way i want some meth head mad at the world trash next door…sorry this won’t fly !!!

  15. August 12, 2013 - Reply

    I wouldn’t want to be anyone’s token poor family, nor would I want to be a poor family living in an expensive neighborhood. What it really comes down to is that once people become affluent, they don’t want to be reminded of poverty. That’s why gentrification works the way it does (move new money in, move old poverty out). Being wealthy doesn’t have the same ring to it if you’re walking the same streets as the poor folks because either you blend in and get treated with the same indifference as everyone else, or you stand out and make yourself a target for abuse. It sucks to be forced to see how average people live everyday. /sarcasm

    P.S. All this means is there will be microcosms of wealth within every “integrated” neighborhood – certain blocks will have unspoken codes of affluence and they’ll be directly across the street from blocks that don’t. That’s IF this actually becomes a reality.

  16. August 12, 2013 - Reply

    They can try to equally intergrate neighborhoods but I would imagine most of the backlash would come from blacks seeing other blacks move into their neighborhood. It’s sad that many of us think we have achieved success when we are “the only black” to intergrate some neighborhood, workplace, school. That’s why I never understand why so many college grads go “Flight with the White” when buying a home. It’s sad to me.

    • August 12, 2013 - Reply

      @L

      L: I get your drift because depending on where a person lives there are some UPSCALE BLACK NEIGHBORHOODS that successful black people can move to. But all cities don’t have that option. And IF my city didn’t have that option I know I’d rather move to a nice white neighborhood, than move to the hood. It may sound stereotypical; but the average person doesn’t want to get a college degree, attain career success, and then move into the hood

  17. August 12, 2013 - Reply

    I understand home owners being worried about their property value especially with the way the housing market is. But I feel that this proposal may work in the short term, but not the long term. Eventually the government needs to go into these lower income communities and change things from within. The money they will spend to build units in wealthier communities could be use to redo/rebuild torn down or old buildings in lower income communities. A change like that may encourage business to build locations by the redo lower income areas. It also encourages residents and may help them feel pride in their community.

  18. August 12, 2013 - Reply

    They already offer the opportunity for lower income families to live in higher income neighborhoods: it’s called Rental Assistance- Section 8. Clients can rent anywhere in the country as long as the unit is affordable to their situation & passes inspection.

    • August 12, 2013 - Reply

      @Betty

      Betty: And I know of several situations where people in nice neighborhoods have complained about Section 8 tenants. When people don’t have a lot of their own money invested in property a lot of times their interest, and commitment to keeping the property up isn’t there. A lot of times it’s a class/social economic issue. And I definitely understand that that would be a problem

  19. August 12, 2013 - Reply

    It’s DUMB idea !! White people aren’t the only ones that don’t want to live next to less than desirable neighbors.

  20. August 12, 2013 - Reply

    That’s ridiculous. I didn’t read the proposed rule (and there should’ve been more details about it in this article), but it sounds like they’re taking the spirit of the voucher program to another level, which would be really messed up. It would only further depress working class neighborhoods–the same ones that have been most adversely affected by housing assistance programs and the large-scale voucherization of public housing in cities like Chicago and Memphis. HUD needs to leave this kumbayah nonsense alone and help to keep people in homes in rapidly gentrifying neighborhoods with escalating property taxes (esp the elderly). And what about prosecuting the predatory lenders and the Wall Street wolves who profited from trading CDOs of subprime mortgages? Some progress is being made, but not enough.

  21. August 12, 2013 - Reply

    There are also housing grants- for which one of my friends applied for an received. He has a full-time job and a masters degree in business, however, that didn’t stop the neighbors from calling the police on him and his friend when they went over one day to trip some of the trees. Police surrounded the house because of complaints about “suspicious activity” in the house. They handcuffed him and interrogated him even after he told them he was the new owner. After 2 hours they finally had the bright idea to pull up the records on the house and saw that he was listed as the owner. Then one of the officers has the nerve to say: “You should try and get to know your neighbors better and this kind of thing won’t happen” my friend then replied: “Maybe they should try and get to know me better.”
    Being successful citizen doesn’t matter to people who don’t want you in their neighborhood, because they won’t take the time to get to know you anyway, they would rather feed off of stereotypes.
    I told my friend he should have researched the neighborhood more before he bought the house, sure its a good neighborhood but he is only 1 of 2 black people living there. On the flip side my father has lived in an all-white neighborhood for 10+ years and has never had a problem.
    I don’t think I would feel comfortable living in an all-white neighborhood, even if it is majority white I would still want there to be some type of racial diversity, then again I guess someone has to be the first.

  22. August 13, 2013 - Reply

    Why are we still perpetuating this myth of “integrated” neighborhoods? All neighborhoods are segregated in some way, be it economically, ethnically, religiously, whatever.

  23. August 13, 2013 - Reply

    I don’t think I would feel comfortable living in an all-white neighborhood, even if it is majority white I would still want there to be some type of racial diversity, then again I guess someone has to be the first.
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    I agree, some people just don’t care but I couldn’t do it and deal with all the side effects.

  24. December 22, 2013 - Reply

    This is one of the worse ideas in the history of bad ideas. Economics aside, all people, regardless of what race, ethnicity, culture or religion want to live out their lives and raise their kids in their own communities with their own “type” of people… whatever that might be. Of course there will be integration to varying degrees depending on who, but that has to happen naturally and should not be enforced by the government or anyone else. THAT WILL MAKE A LOT OF VERY UNHAPPY PEOPLE AND LEAD TO VERY BAD THINGS. IT IS SIMPLY NOT THE WAY OF THE WORLD. GIVE IT UP AND WORK ON IMPROVING YOUR “OWN” COMMUNITY.

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