Yesha Callahan

College Student Suspended After Saying “Black Women Are Not Hot”

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Colorado College suspended a student for six months over a single “anonymous” comment he made on Yik Yak, a social media discussion thread app that allows users to post anonymously within a geolocated boundary.

Thaddeus Pryor, a junior at the school, was removed from campus last month because one of his remarks violated the college’s policies against “Abusive Behavior” and “Disruption of College Activities.” His offense, which he admitted to, was replying to a post tagged “#blackwomenmatter” with, “They matter, they’re just not hot.”

Initially, Pryor was kicked off campus for 21 months, but the suspension was reduced on appeal this month, according to the Colorado Springs Gazette.”The six word comment I admitted to writing then deleting shortly after was mean, hurtful, and neither reflective of my character, nor my actual beliefs,” Pryor wrote in his appeal. “That being said, I still made the comment, and am deeply sorry for it.”

The reduced suspension only came after the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education (FIRE), a civil liberties nonprofit, got involved by writing to the college a few days later. FIRE has accused the college of disregarding its student guide’s statement which includes – “all members of the college community have such basic rights as freedom of speech.”

Because Colorado College is a private institution, it does not have to grant the same First Amendment free speech rights that a public school would. However, FIRE insists the school’s statement about free speech in its college guide creates a “contractual obligation.”

What remains a mystery is exactly how the school discovered Pryor was behind the posts. In his appeal letter, Pryor said one dean told him “they had no evidence other than a rumor ‘through the grapevine,'” and noted the college also accused him of posting a comment that said white people were a superior race. He denies making any offensive post besides the one in question.

While students have frequently protested in recent years over racist and offensive posts on the app, colleges have no way to identify who says anything on Yik Yak. The company has told HuffPost it does not reveal user identities unless there is a legitimate request from law enforcement regarding a potential threat.Colorado College said federal privacy laws prevent it from discussing student disciplinary actions, but did state that they did not make contact with Yik Yak. “The college followed its disciplinary procedures in this matter and respects the privacy of its students,” the school said.

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Do you think the punishment for Pryor’s statement was justified or did the school slightly overreact?
  1. December 18, 2015 - Reply

    I think the school overreached. He’s despicable but didn’t make any threats so they just punished his free speech.

    • December 18, 2015 - Reply

      @Me

      you are exactly right and this is where we are headed if we don’t watch out and stop the dangerous PC train before it run over all of us, as despicable as what he said was he didn’t do it in school, he did it on social media and we better be wise how we co-sign and rejoice because we are setting ourselves up for that ax to swing back on us!

  2. December 18, 2015 - Reply

    power of social media!..when will people learn..its OK to have an opinion, but if you don’t want it to backfire, DON’T POST IT

  3. December 18, 2015 - Reply

    I don’t feel as though he should have been suspended for “Not finding the black women at his school…… HOT” LOL The school is making a big deal out of nothing.. IMO

  4. December 18, 2015 - Reply

    Idc at all about this. Not only do I agree with other posters that this is not a big deal, but also I think that the school is only doing this to save themselves from potential backlash.

    • December 20, 2015 - Reply

      @_a_

      Preach.

  5. December 18, 2015 - Reply

    “…and neither reflective of my character, nor my actual beliefs,”

    Hahaha! I LOVE when white racists are exposed and they use lines like this. Haha! If it’s not a reflection of you character then why say it?

    he just proved to the world that he is a biased and racist. I’m

    • December 18, 2015 - Reply

      @jay@cha

      Right?! They’re never racist…until they are.

      L. O. L.

    • December 18, 2015 - Reply

      @jay@cha

      Right on.

  6. December 18, 2015 - Reply

    I don’t feel he should’ve been suspended for this. Him not finding Black women “hot” doesn’t harm anyone. I am not attracted to yt and I don’t think that makes me a bad person.

    Now if he was suspended for trolling then I approve, because he was trolling.

    • December 18, 2015 - Reply

      @Staci Elle

      I agree Staci. I’d hate for the struggle for racial fairness and equality to be trivialized by remarks about whether or not someone finds black women attractive. Some black men have been calling us unattractive for decades and no one’s suspending them from schools or jobs.

      • December 18, 2015 - Reply

        @FragranceObsessed

        All of this!

        • December 19, 2015 - Reply

          @Staci Elle

          Have a Great Weekend Sister Staci Elle.

      • December 18, 2015 - Reply

        @FragranceObsessed

        You, Staci, and others are completely missing the point. The convo was about social justice, not the white man’s peen. This white boy took it upon himself to belittle black women in a comment thread about our civil rights. Out of all the threads, in all the world, a white boy picked #blackwomenmatter to remind us that he didn’t find us fcukable. That’s not a coincidence, and given the context of the remark, and the history of racialized misogyny that black women face on the daily, the remark shouldn’t be excused or ignored. Our civil rights have nothing to do with whether or not he finds us sexually attractive. So,if anyone is trivializing black women’s struggle for racial fairness and equality, it’s that white boy, not others for calling him out.

        • December 20, 2015 - Reply

          @uhoh-ohno

          Nope read my comment, I said that if the school has a anti-trolling policy then he was suspended for good reason but for the statement Black women aren’t hot? nah. White people are the least hot people in the world to me but do I need to say that when the conversation is about something about life or death ( like Blackwomenlivesmatter) nope and that is the point..

          • December 20, 2015 - Reply

            @Staci Elle

            Great Points Sister.

            We shouldn’t care what white racists think of us anyway. We should be concerned with building in our communities, defending our people, and fighting for the truth.

            • December 20, 2015 - Reply

              @truthseeker2436577@yahoo.com

              Yes!

              • December 20, 2015 - Reply

                @Staci Elle

                Thank you Sister. When it rains, it pours, but our people historically have possessed the umbrellas of shielding the rain of white racist lies. We want to get our minds strengthened, stand up for something real, and advance egalitarian, authentic principles.

      • December 18, 2015 - Reply

        @FragranceObsessed

        you are right we got to look in the mirror it makes no sense to raise hell because some other race of people say they don’t like us when we do not like ourselves and who in their right mind going to respect a people who don’t like or respect themselves.

    • December 20, 2015 - Reply

      @Staci Elle

      Agreed!!

  7. December 18, 2015 - Reply

    The story makes black women look really clingy, needy and self-victimizing. If he does not think that black women are attractive, then he does not. You cannot police other races of men into liking you.

    • December 18, 2015 - Reply

      @Black Panther

      Thank you!

    • December 18, 2015 - Reply

      @Black Panther

      thank you this groveling has become beyond embarrassing to black men and black women and at some point well meaning well balance black women and men must find a way to stop this cause we can’t get everybody suspended, fired or embarrassed into liking us, sometimes they don’t like us because we don’t like ourselves and they all know it. Thanks your comment was spot on point and well needed.

      • December 19, 2015 - Reply

        @trueletterson*vwfone@gmail.com

        Please point me to the groveling that BW did in the article and how BW are responsible for the SCHOOL overreacting to an inappropriate comment

        • December 19, 2015 - Reply

          @blogdiz

          no disrespect we are on your side, I got sisters, wife, daughter in laws and granddaughter and I love no one better than I love my little black granddaughter, we are talking about this issue in it’s totality just about every week a article pop up about what some white person say about our black women and black men on top of that we keep seeing article every week every day where black women are begging these same people for interracial relationship and marriage and to love them and if you are honest, fair and wise you can’t deny this it’s fact so we need to check ourselves and take a look into the mirror and start loving, admiring and respecting ourselves then other will start respecting us, we can’t browbeat, harass, punish and bully others into liking or loving us when we don’t even love ourselves.

          • December 19, 2015 - Reply

            @trueletterson*vwfone@gmail.com

            You’re projecting. This has nothing to do with interracial relationships. Stop projecting your feelings onto this situation

            • December 19, 2015 - Reply

              @Tonididitonem

              say what? hahahahahahahaha

    • December 19, 2015 - Reply

      @Black Panther

      What?.

    • December 19, 2015 - Reply

      @Black Panther

      I agree the punishment is excessive but yes the comment was inappropriate given the context i.e not used on a dating site BUT to derail an activist movement highlighting injustices against BW (apparently injustices which are not important cuz he doesn’t find us hot?) Most BW dont care about WM finding us hot BUT care about the correlation between How our lives are valued and how we are treated when victimized.
      So in that context IF BW reported the comment as inappropriate they are well within thier right and I say IF because the article doesn’t expressly say how the comment came to the schools attention ?. In Any Case it was the SCHOOL that determined the punishment Not BW.

      I therefore find it fascinating that in light of the info presented that you blame not the student commenter , Not the School for overreacting But BW ? and make the quantum leap that BW are “clingy, needy and self-victimizing” etc How so Sway ???

      You must have some info not in the article or that we are not privy cuz the only action attributable to BW here is possibly reporting an inappropriate comment ( which is an assumption ) yet it somehow leads to us being disparaged and blamed for the situation…..WOW

      • December 19, 2015 - Reply

        @blogdiz

        Preach Sister.

  8. December 18, 2015 - Reply

    I really couldn’t care less about what happens to this child. Not about to cape for someone who clearly doesn’t and wouldn’t cape for me…

    And who the he11 named him “Thaddeus”?! Yeah, his first amendment rights may matter, but his name is “just not hot”.

  9. December 18, 2015 - Reply

    First, I saw this guy’s picture and he is the LAST to judge someone looks wise. Secondly, I love how he wanted to backtrack if how his own words is not reflective of him and his beliefs…side eye please stop lying and stand by your words. Personally, I don’t give a damn if he or the next man don’t find black women hot, his opinion doesn’t affect my self-worth I know I am fine and my fellow Black magical girls/women are hot so why would we lose sleep over an opinion swine. Thirdly, why are some people blaming Black women for his words that he admitted to typing? Nobody is saying he should LOVE Black women and fine us attractive but his own opinion got him in trouble with his school NOT Black women. Personally, I don’t think he should be suspended for this because I wouldn’t necessarily qualify this as hateful speech, abusive behavior or disruptive of activities but maybe the school have other things on him for then to reach this decision…shrugs but either way I am not allying this.

  10. December 18, 2015 - Reply

    Don’t care what happens to trolls. If he can’t find a job outside of that camp that he’s been working at later on in life due to his own stupidity, don’t care about that either. NEXT!

  11. December 18, 2015 - Reply

    I’m not losing sleep over the suspension. The question deals with school policy. Since it is a private institution, the college will theoretically have more leave way in conducting its policies. If he said such comments in the university to harass black women publicly, then he should definitely be suspended. He made his racist and misogynistic comments in the Internet. Like usual, this racist is copping pleas because he was caught not because he has genuine respect for black people. Do I believe that the school overreached? Yes. Yet, I don’t agree with that racist’s evil views. The white racist (regardless if he deserved to be suspended or not as I respect both points of view) experienced his Karma. It is just as simple as that.

    So, Black women are Beautiful.

    • December 18, 2015 - Reply

      @truthseeker2436577@yahoo.com

      I’m kind of surprised at a lot of the comments here who are chalking up that white boy’s remarks to mere preference, like he didn’t spew that ish on a thread about black women’s civil rights. You even have one or two commenters trying to flip it like black women are being overly sensitive or like we doled out the punishment. It’s like some of them have no appreciation for context or history or even shade. To them, it seems like white men offering unsolicited, racist remarks about our appearance is only a problem when they outright read us, drag us, or call us nappy headed hoes while playing college basketball.

      • December 18, 2015 - Reply

        @uhoh-ohno

        Yes.

        I agree with you. This male scoundrel has slandered black women. He deserves no respect or glamorization at all. This male punk was a misogynist and he ought to not be supported in any way. Plus, we pay money to many colleges and the respect should be given to black women

      • December 19, 2015 - Reply

        @uhoh-ohno

        Exactly , BW didnt write the comment, didn’t determine the punishment and were not necessarily the ones who brought it to the schools attention but somehow The BW and her neediness /oversensitivity is to be blamed ???…Sigh

  12. December 18, 2015 - Reply

    I don’t think that he should’ve been suspended for his true feelings.I just don’t know why he felt the need to put it in the Internet.I don’t think white men are hot but I keep that to myself.

    • December 19, 2015 - Reply

      @Mrs.J

      None?

      • December 19, 2015 - Reply

        @lis

        No I went through a phase where I dated a few white guys but no I’m not attracted to them at all now.Even the so called hottest ones do nothing for me.That’s why I’m not offened by this at all.

  13. December 18, 2015 - Reply

    I really don’t care about what he said, but I understand the school’s actions. But what I really can’t stand is when people who are forced to apologize claim that their behavior was not reflective of their character. YES IT WAS. I believe, whatever you say or do is a part of your character – the good and the bad. It may not be a side that you show very often or even like about yourself but it is a part of you. Otherwise, you wouldn’t do it. Think about it. He claimed that not only was submitting that comment out of character, it doesn’t even reflect his beliefs. Unless you’re getting paid, who really spouts ish they don’t believe or act of character???

  14. December 18, 2015 - Reply

    It’s not even that big of a deal. Suspension tho?!!

  15. December 18, 2015 - Reply

    Whether he like black women or not, do y’all see the danger here if they can suspend him from college for what he said next they will be able to suspend or fire us off the job for what we post on Disqus, we need to do critical thinking y’all and be careful what we co-sign onto.

    • December 18, 2015 - Reply

      @trueletterson*vwfone@gmail.com

      Great point. A lot of people post anonymous comments on Disqus that they would not want their employer or school to find out about. It’s easy to say hateful things when you feel your identity is safe. What happens when that veil of anonymity is suddenly lifted?

      • December 18, 2015 - Reply

        @joe

        THANK YOU……see that’s what they don’t think about, they never think any further than their emotions allow them to think, and that’s dangerous, they never think that when they empower the PC thought and speech patrol to drop the hammer on this boy that that same PC thought and speech patrol will come back and drop the hammer on them causing them to lose their livelihood job, loose their home, car and make their children hungry and homeless just because of what they side in private or on social media.

  16. December 18, 2015 - Reply

    Who in their right mind names a child Thaddeus? Thaddeus Knight Pryor! As in the “night prior”. Raven-Symoné wouldn’t hire this boy.

    Seriously, though saying «and neither reflective of my character, nor my actual beliefs» is a cop-out. Just own up to it, admit what you said was insensitive and racist, apologize and then hope the people will forgive you.

    What he said was stupid. That said I believe the punishment was harsh. At the end of the day it’s his opinion. Well, maybe it’ll teach him a lesson about not putting that kind of views/opinions on the internet.

  17. December 19, 2015 - Reply

    This is stupid

  18. December 19, 2015 - Reply

    I would have to see him first in order to know whether I should give a damn………….boy, leave it to Clutch to report on this garbage but I responded so…..

  19. December 19, 2015 - Reply

    Freedom of speech means you will sometimes be subjected to rude and offensive language. I often wonder how these youngins are going to function in the real world.

  20. December 19, 2015 - Reply

    If I don’t find women of a certain race or ethnicity “hot” and seek to post that online then those women have a right to blowback at me but I don’t think institutions should be wasting time with such trivial matters. It’s a waste of effort and resources majoring in such minor issues and makes me wonder about who has time to be offended by meaningless comments from unimportant people. One can care about women and race issues and also ignore such trivialities. It is not an all or nothing choice. We need to stop behaving like every dumb sht that comes down the pike has equal weight, it doesn’t and oftentimes ignoring such meaningless comments is the best response. After all trolls only exist because people acknowledge them. No response deem them invisible.

  21. December 19, 2015 - Reply

    Why was it necessary for him to include he didn’t think Black women were hot? Who cares what he thinks? We don’t need his tag of approval. As far as the school’s actions, I couldn’t care less about this guy or his suspension. Black people bemoaning the schools actions can have at it.

  22. December 19, 2015 - Reply

    Even as a black woman, I feel this school is reaching. I don’t care if some dude doesn’t find us attractive, he could’ve said MUCH much worse. I’ve _seen_ much worse on Yik Yak and I no longer use the app because people are stupid, something we all know too well.

    Ignorant or not, the first amendment does protect your right to free speech. Though it doesn’t protect you from the consequences.

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