Yesha Callahan

Pennsylvania Lawmakers Wants Proof Your Child Was Conceived Through Rape If You’re On Welfare

If you’re on welfare and raped in Pennsylvania, you may be out of luck when it comes to receiving extra welfare benefits. A new Pennsylvania House bill wants to limit the amount of TANF assistance that low-income women receive based on the amount of children they give birth to while covered under the program. But they threw in a stipulation on births that resulted from rape.

The Pennsylvania lawmakers behind the bill include,  State Reps. RoseMarie Swanger (R), Tom Caltagirone (D), Mark Gillen (R), Keith Gillespie (R), Adam Harris (R), and Mike Tobash (R). These MEN feel the state shouldn’t provide additional benefits for newborns .  Here’s the kicker. If a woman happens to get chosen by god and raped, I’ll call this getting “Mourdocked”,  and gives birth to a child,  she may seek an exception to this rule so that her welfare benefits aren’t slashed. But that will happen if she can provide proof that the sexual assault was reported as well as the abuser’s identity (because we all know that every rape victim knows who raped them):

In determining the amount of assistance payments to a recipient family of benefits under the Temporary Assistance to Needy Families (TANF) Program, the department shall revise the schedule of benefits to be paid to the recipient family by eliminating the increment in benefits under the program for which that family would otherwise be eligible as a result of the birth of a child conceived during the period in which the family is eligible for benefits under the TANF Program. […] Elimination of benefits under subsection (d) shall not apply to any child conceived as a result of rape or incest if the department: (1) receives a non-notarized, signed statement from the pregnant woman stating that she was a victim of rape or incest, as the case may be, and that she reported the crime, including the identity of the offender, if known, to a law enforcement agency having the requisite jurisdiction or, in the case of incest where a pregnant minor is the victim, to the county child protective service agency and stating the name of the law enforcement agency or child protective service agency to which the report was made and the date such report was made.

On one hand, the law is trying to prevent baby making machines from going forth and multiplying any further, and expecting the state to foot the bill. But on the other hand, Pennsylvania is throwing a monkey wrench into the mix.  Maybe Senate candidate Richard Mourdock should let Pennsylvania realize, this is God’s work, and since God created the people who created welfare, then, it’s only fair that the state should get rid of this ridiculous stipulation.

According to the Rape, Abuse, & Incest National Network, 54 percent of rapes and sexual assaults are not reported to the police. Last month, New Mexico’s Children, Youth and Families Department considered a similar measure that would have only exempted victims of “forcible rape” from having to file child support claims against an absent parent. Gov. Susana Martinez (R) quickly pulled the “forcible” language after the proposal sparked backlash.

What do you think about the bill?

  1. October 25, 2012 - Reply

    I guess when your on welfare and the government is taking care of your housing and for then your kind of at their mercy. Sad.

    • October 25, 2012 - Reply

      @Nicole

      I agree. You are at their mercy. It’s not sad. What’s sad is that others who have lied and taken advantage of these services have made it harder for those how truly need them and use them as intended. Truth is, if these services were distributed and used correctly there wouldnt be an issue.

      • October 25, 2012 - Reply

        @victoria

        @victoria Preach!!!!!!!

      • October 25, 2012 - Reply

        @victoria

        Wow, statistics on TANF and food stamp fraud, please?

        Clearly you’ve never attempted to apply for one of these programs because you sound like you live in the bubble of an alternative reality. They rigorously check your finances before you’re able to receive any benefits and guess what? It’s a FELONY that they actively prosecute if you attempt to apply for TANF or SNAP and you don’t qualify either because you lied on your application or because you failed to report that you exceeded the income requirements.

        According to the non-partisan Government Accountability Office, during 2010 the rate of payment errors was 4%. Four. Do you know what it was in 1999? 9%. Considering the size and scope of the food assistance programs, that’s an incredibly low margin. And you know what the kicker is? MOST OF THESE ERRORS WERE MADE BY THE CASEWORKERS, -NOT- THE RECIPIENTS.

        And just in case you’re curious, read the primary source document yourself: http://www.gao.gov/assets/130/125135.pdf

        I really hate when people get all high and mighty and totally full of crap about these types of things, especially when you consider the the vast majority of recipients of these programs are the elderly and children. This type of rhetoric is just as nonsensical as the people screaming about voter fraud and tax payer money going towards abortions.

        Yeesh.

      • October 25, 2012 - Reply

        @victoria

        THANK YOU SAMM!!

        And thank you for the resource. Not surprised about the low votes on your post. More research, less rhetoric.

      • October 25, 2012 - Reply

        @victoria

        @Samm

        Im a wife and a mother. I’ve traveled to 17 countries on four different continents. I speak 2 languages. I have dual passports. I’m a former teacher and enjoy working with kids. I obtained my first job at the age of 14, paid my own way through university (which took me 7 years). I’ve lived in several states and now live in Europe. But if not applying for food stamps or TANF means I live in a bubble…so be it.

        Yes, most of the recepients of social welfare are decent and honorable. But many are taken advantage of the system. You know this. Cut it out.

  2. October 25, 2012 - Reply

    Filing a police report seems reasonable to me, requiring them to identif the attacker does not. Better that they provide free abortions to rape victims instead. Also reduce the amout of benifits for every child you have while on the system. You gonna learn today to use protection.

  3. October 25, 2012 - Reply

    This bill is disgusting, as are some of the comments on the article. You can not fairly judge a group of people based on the behavior of a few bad apples. This bill seeks to further traumatize a group of women who have been through enough because a small percent don’t know how to behave.

    It is especially disheartening to see fellow African-Americans cosign this considering the outcry that erupts whenever this happens to us.

  4. October 25, 2012 - Reply

    Attitudes like this are why people think we are leeches looking for handouts.

    The government is not obligated to give you any money. It does so because welfare helps and things would be much worse without welfare.

    Black women continue to have babies by men who refuse to stay and provide for their children. It’s silly. And people are starting to get tired of it. Birth control is not rocket science. Men providing for their children is not impossible. Other people see baby mommas and baby daddies as immature children who go out and do irresponsible things and then look to daddy government to fix it like a child. That’s not self-hate. That’s just how it is. MEN are supposed to take care of their children not the government.

    People like you are going to be in for a rude awakening if these Republicans ever get their way.

    I believe in welfare for deserving people: old people, divorced mothers, disabled people, single mothers with one kid, but I think women who have kids that they can’t afford to take care of are irresponsible. I can see one kid maybe two, but past that, you’re just irresponsible in my book.

    Attitudes like this are why Republicans attack welfare and want to do away with it. They think the majority of welfare recipients are baby machines who think they’re entitled to money after being irresponsible. You make welfare look bad, and there are many deserving people out there.

    • October 28, 2012 - Reply

      @?!?

      These women should have gotten a clue when Bill Clinton introduced TANF. so much for the first black president. The Great Society is dead. Nobody wants to pay for your bastard kids and subsidize your poor sexual hygiene with taxpayer money. There is no more money left.

  5. October 26, 2012 - Reply

    Considering most women never report being raped because they are afraid they won’t be believed, you can’t honestly gauge what child was created from rape and which one wasn’t. When I worked with teen girls and mothers, stories of rape were rampant. Sexual abuse is a dirty secret in lots of communities, especially communities of color, and most people want to turn a blind eye to it. Most of the girls never wanted to turn in their attackers because they were afraid of retaliation against themselves or their children or afraid they’d end up on the streets.

    I could tell stories all night about girls abused by stepfathers, cousins, friends, pastors, etc., and had children by them because they either couldn’t afford an abortion or were too afraid to seek it. For some women not reporting a rape was a safer bet than being exposed to police (who probably wouldn’t believe you), get a physical exam and being photographed (which was like being raped all over again) then going to trial with a judge (who probably wouldn’t believe you either) and then end up with the attacker still out on the street gunning for you.

  6. October 26, 2012 - Reply

    THe only problem I see with this bill is the requirement to identify your attacker. That’s just ridiculous. However a person who is already on public assistance should not be having MORE kids. For those people who say there are only a few bad apples abusing the system – please! I live in NYC and I see these women all the time (in fact some of them are in my extended family). People having children they cannot support is VERY common and the practice should not be encouraged.

  7. October 27, 2012 - Reply

    Oh PA… Gotta love that crazy ass state I call home (sarcasm intended)

  8. October 28, 2012 - Reply

    Wow

    it doesn’t take much to divide and conquer “black” people – does it?

    Propose some clearly unnecessary law, (as SAMM ^^ above has clearly shown) but depict it as necessary to address a problem caused by some demonized or outcast population, and let the bigots and racists give it the public support it needs to pass into legislation.

    Funny though, that when whites threaten something privileged nigros benefit from, oh say, like – affirmative action, we’re all supposed to rally behind the call to defend something only FREELOADING privileged nigros benefit from.

    Well

    if you’re “brainy” enough to get a place at a decent college you don’t need to get in on an AA ticket – using the logic you apply to poor black people and the logic white people apply to YOU.

    Also, they keep telling people to vote for Obama – against the republican threat to women’s reproductive rights.

    I’m assuming the reproductive rights they want to preserve includes the right to HAVE your baby – not just to abort it – and to obtain all the benefits that having a baby entitles you to.

    Just sleep walking into totalitarianism.

  9. October 31, 2012 - Reply

    I hate it when people that use babies as a meal ticket however, aren’t these the same people that want to limit women’s access to birth control?

    I do think rape victims should report their rape but that decision is entirely up to them. Not the state. If the authorities wanted women to report rapes they need to stop victim blaming and slut shaming so that women would go to authorities rather than shoulder the pain themselves.

    I’ve heard half of rape cases don’t end in conviction anyway. See “The Accused” the woman is the one on trial, not the man.

Leave a Reply to paul Cancel reply

This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Learn how your comment data is processed.

%d bloggers like this: