Yesha Callahan

Bill Cosby: You Can’t Prove George Zimmerman Is Racist

Bill Cosby: You Can’t Prove George Zimmerman Is Racist

Everyone has an opinion about the George Zimmerman trial.  Even Bill Cosby, of course.

In an interview with the “DomNnate Radio Show,”  Cosby shared some interesting views on the issue of race.

“This racial stuff goes into a whole bunch of discussion which has stuff that you can’t prove,” Cosby said in an interview Tuesday. “You can’t prove somebody is a racist unless they really come out and do the act and is found to be that.”

Oh really? So the man who is always trying to put black people in their ‘place’, doesn’t seem to think the killing was racially motivated, or that Trayvon Martin was profiled by a wannabe cop?

Cosby’s take on the trial? “The prosecution did not tell the story well, and they lost,” Cosby said. When asked about racial profiling his comments were even more disheartening. “Let’s not go into a racial discussion unless we really have something there,” he said

Cosby also had interesting views on the media and the Casey Anthony case.  “I found the media were jumping and had this woman guilty,” Cosby said. “I will never pay attention to information given to me by TV, radio or whatever about a high-profile case until the jury says what it says.”

Sigh. Sometimes I feel like a Cosby lecture. Sometimes I don’t. This is definitely one of those times.   You can listen to the whole interview below.

 

What do you think of Bill Cosby’s comments?

  1. July 18, 2013 - Reply

    I stopped taking this guy seriously a very long time ago.

  2. July 18, 2013 - Reply

    It’s funny how people are just either blocking out information or ignoring it so we can ignore the 911 call he made many times he suspected black males of robbing houses, we can ignore his father’s book where he says black were the real racist, and we can ignore the woman who said his family never liked blacks and all his other actions to show he doesn’t care particularly for minorities like his father. I don’t know why people are trying to ignore these things in the media. It’s sad when someone whom you regard as intelligent says something ridiculous.

    • July 18, 2013 - Reply

      @geenababe

      Yes and on his old MySpace page, Zimmerman made derogatory remarks about Mexicans as well. I could take Cosby’s argument more seriously if Zimmerman had actually given a reason during the 911 call that he found Trayvon suspicious. Besides saying Trayvon was “staring,” Zimmerman never pinpointed any suspicious behavior that Trayvon exhibited, so why exactly did the teen catch the neighborhood watchman’s eye? One must suspend logic to believe that race didn’t play a role. Zimmerman’s lawyer admitted as much during an appearance Monday on “The VIew.”

    • July 19, 2013 - Reply

      @geenababe

      The facts. Let’s not forget to include the fact that George Zimmerman doesn’t neatly fit into the white vs. black narrative, either. Thus, “white Hispanic,” which is about as ridiculous an identifier as you can get. Again, like Mr. Cosby said, the media. If Zimmerman had killed anyone that wasn’t a young black man, he would have been “that Peruvian guy.”

      Conjecture Trials: Formed in the Court of Public Opinion.

  3. July 18, 2013 - Reply

    He’s right! You have to make up you’re mind before you let the media influence your opinion. in the end…legally there was not case here. BUT morally….its was deplorable that a grown man targeted a child and ultimately killed him for no viable reason except to avoid a deserved ass kicking. I think that the prosecution did a half ass job from the start!

    • July 18, 2013 - Reply

      @Acosya

      ‘legally there was no case here’……So, if someone is following you, and they call 911 because YOU look suspicious, and they continue to follow you after being told to fall back, and an altercation takes place because they did as they pleased, do you not think this person had ill intent from the moment they began to follow you? Yeah, there was a case here…..the media didn’t have to influence us. We see this all to often in our boys and young men of color. I think the majority of US are intelligent enough to know right from wrong and be able to make up our our own without looking like sheep being led by the media.

      • July 18, 2013 - Reply

        @LF

        In this case for the jury, it did not matter what preceded the fight. All the jury had to believe was that GZ felt threatened in that one moment and because of his injuries they could believe that. And all I’ve had people say online is that following isn’t illegal when trying to defend the verdict. And it is clear that TM was getting the best of GZ but we still don’t know how the altercation started. I believe TM was trying to defend himself against GZ. The prosecution looked like they didn’t really care about trying to prove the case against GZ.

    • July 18, 2013 - Reply

      @Acosya

      IDK why people are thumbing down your comment. Unfortunately, the burden is on the prosecution to prove guilt or innocence; they did a piss poor job.

      • July 18, 2013 - Reply

        @KnottyNatural

        I will agree. They did a very piss poor job.

      • July 19, 2013 - Reply

        @KnottyNatural

        The judicial system did a piss poor job as a whole. It is clear that whether the prosecution did an amazing job or not the jury was clearly bias. They had their minds made up way before the case had be presented. The deep root was a flawed jury.

    • July 24, 2013 - Reply

      @Acosya

      If you break into someones home with the intention only to steal. You believe there’s not anyone home. A struggle ensues when they are found at home and you kill that person, you are guilty of manslaughter in this country. your actions, though not intentional or planned, caused the death of a human being. Zimmerman was legally guilty of doing that. He stalked and approached Trayvon, scared him into feeling like he needed to defend himself (Zimmerman is not a cop), and then killed him when he was losing. How many times do we have to rehash this. There was most definitely a case and if there wasn’t, you could not say “…the prosecution did a half ass job from the start!”

      And Bill Cosby has ZERO credibility and has not had any for a while.

  4. July 18, 2013 - Reply

    *Watches Cosby Show reruns and reminisces about 80s Bill Cosby…

  5. July 18, 2013 - Reply

    This man grew up with my uncle and cousin. They ran in the same circle. My uncle, who was my mother’s oldest sibling, treated his parents and siblings like dirt. It was not until he was darn near dead that he had to come home for help. In his last days, the only thing he could think about was how he had a chance to be with his white female boss in the late 50’s, but felt his mother would not have approved. LOL. Birds of a feather flock together.

  6. July 18, 2013 - Reply

    Two problems with Cosby’s comments. First, he suggests the existence of something relies on the ability to prove it exists. That’s nonsense. Because you cannot prove your neighbor is a child molester does not mean he/she is not one. Second, Cosby does not understand the workings of power. As Nietzsche argues, it is hard to locate power because people are generally unaware of power until it inflicts a blow. By that time, power relocates ready to strike again. It’s like the “Battle Royal” scene from Invisible Man. The victim walks around in the dark being assaulted from all sides without a clue as to who or what hit him/her.

    Heathcliff, you’ve lost your mind.

  7. July 18, 2013 - Reply

    There’s no doubt Zimmerman has some issues in regards to treating blacks equally. Even if I take race out of the case, I still think he should have been found guilty. It’s crazy that if this wannabe cop was a real cop, this would immediately be ruled as excessive force. But his neighborhood watch @ss is innocent.

  8. July 18, 2013 - Reply

    With Cosby’s first two comments, I actually agree with him. The prosecution did so horrible and after hearing Juror B37 I’m just gonna assume all of them were not competent. What people are not getting is that a trial isn’t about morals and what’s right or wrong. A charge is brought against someone and it has to be proven beyond reasonable doubt. The defense did what the defense was supposed to do, defend. Trust me, I’m sad too because Zimmerman was wrong but our courts don’t work like that. Zimmerman is scum but he’s still an American citizen. Then with racism, I forget people realize that racism by itself is not illegal and it’s not the courts business to prove someone is a racist. Even before this case, I’ve known it’s very very very difficult to prove someone is racist or that they committed a hate crime based on race. So although I support the case going to the federal courts (which proves our system works), I pray this case meets the standard because it’s very high. Obama and I have a love/hate relationship but he’s right when he said we are a nation of laws and the jury has spoken. Racism is subjective if our justice system operated at the whims of racism, we’d have no stable government.

    Mr. Cosby is not off base to think like this. No one who thinks like this is off base.

    • July 18, 2013 - Reply

      @solfresh

      “Then with racism, I forget people realize that racism by itself is not illegal and it’s not the courts business to prove someone is a racist.”

      In both crime and law, hate crimes (also known as bias-motivated crimes, or race hate) occur when a perpetrator targets a victim because of his or her perceived membership in a certain social group. Examples of such groups include but are not limited to: racial group, religion, sexual orientation, ethnicity or gender identity.[1]

      Hate crime is a category used to describe bias-motivated violence: “assault, injury, and murder on the basis of certain personal characteristics: different appearance, different color, different nationality, different language, different religion.”[2]

      “Hate crime” generally refers to criminal acts that are seen to have been motivated by bias against one or more of the types above, or of their derivatives. Incidents may involve physical assault, damage to property, bullying, harassment, verbal abuse or insults, or offensive graffiti or letters (hate mail).[

    • July 18, 2013 - Reply

      @solfresh

      Our justice system does operate on the foundation of racism (amongst other deplorable -isms).

  9. July 18, 2013 - Reply

    You would think someone like Cosby that lost his own son to violence would emphasize with trayvon’s parents. Smh

    While I love the Cosby Show and A Different World, as well as the positive images of black family life he was able to express through the 80’s and early 90’s, I hate all of his rants and speeches about black people.

    His “tell it like it is” speeches along with I Obama’s “black people stop eating Popeyes in the morning” speeches are counterproductive. They offer no solutions and unfortunately, lump all blacks in the same desperate boat while giving people of other races a free pass to use their useless rhetoric as some sort of reference when making excuses for racist behavior.

    When you publicly bash an entire group of people without acknowledging the fucked up system that oppresses that group and ensures failure, you are doing a disservice. Even if we can’t prove Zimmerman is racist, Cosby still didn’t mention how backwards and dangerous “stand your ground” is. If you don’t want to ruffle white people’s feathers by speaking out against racism and racial profiling, then at least add something positive to the situation by speaking out against the law that helped a grown man to stalk, provoke, and kill a teenager and get away with it.

    • July 18, 2013 - Reply

      @Whatever

      The man who killed his son bragged about killng a black man. I guess that wasn’t race-related either. It seems like since his son was killed, he has become angry and bitter. He’s like your angry grandpa or uncle. You have to take everything he says with a grain of salt.

      • July 18, 2013 - Reply

        @donnadara

        He’s also an aging man. Not quite on top of his game mentally. Back in the day, we would listen to a rant like this from an older person, shake our heads or smile indulgently, and get on with our lives. Today we write articles about the rants and judge them. I don’t know about you guys, but I kind of feel it’s counterproductive.

    • July 18, 2013 - Reply

      @Whatever

      Yes- thank you!

    • July 18, 2013 - Reply

      @Whatever

      THIS!!!

    • July 18, 2013 - Reply

      @Whatever

      I agree. The more I think about it, I don’t feel Bill Cosby ever really “supported” the black community.

  10. July 18, 2013 - Reply

    cosby seems lost to us……

  11. July 18, 2013 - Reply

    The man is right in a way. Knowing something is true and proving it to be true are two different things. And in america you have to prove the accused is guilty of whatever crime they are accused of committing. No matter what you feel in your heart to be right and true. The media definately plays with the publics emotions and does not present unbiased info. Y’all are jumping on Bill but you need to pay attention. This is exactly why the verdict is what it is despite the fact that tons of ppl feel that Zimmerman should be under the jail right now. We need to work on these laws so we don’t get bamboozled in the same way.

    • July 18, 2013 - Reply

      @nicki

      I agree!

      In a court of law, everything has to be proven and & unfortunately the prosecution did a poor job. They choose not to go with racism overall which certainly did nothing to defame his character in the eyes of a majority white all female jury, although the media framed it otherwise. Overall I felt as if the prosecution did not care, they sat there like sitting ducks and let the Defense take it right out from underneath them, they didn’t even bring half of the stuff they should have.

      • July 23, 2013 - Reply

        @Moi

        Even if the prosecution slept through the trial, even if they forgot to present the facts, hell, even if they didn’t show up, even if there’s much more to this story than any of us lay people could know, miscarriages of justice happen in our courts all the time, and accepting a verdict based on someone not doing their job isn’t justice. If we were forced to accept all verdicts just because a jury believed it followed the rules then no rulings would ever be overturned, or found unconstitutional, etc. One ruling does not justice make, and it doesn’t mitigate all of the other information that people who watched the trial could hear and see for themselves. And at the end of the day, if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it’s an effing duck. Mr. Cosby, go away and shut up.

  12. July 18, 2013 - Reply

    Hey, Bill Cosby is not perfect. He played the world’s best husband and father on tv. In real life, he cheated on his wife, one if his kids was hooked on drugs and he hosted things at the Playboy Mansion. In real life, didn’t he get a GED? Isn’t his PhD honorary? (Somebody correct me if I’m wrong.) Camille Hanks’s family and friends had no idea what she saw in him, but she believed in him, married him and they went on to do great things. For all we know, the Cosby show is really Camille’s vision with Bill’s name behind it…but whatever it is, I thank God for it and for them. They have done great things for black people. Now he’s old and talking out of his head, as I’m sure a lot old people do…it’s just that the press gets a hold of his.

    • July 18, 2013 - Reply

      @Joan

      In 1976, Cosby earned a Doctor of Education (Ed.D) degree from the University of Massachusetts. For his doctoral research, he wrote a dissertation entitled, “An Integration of the Visual Media Via ‘Fat Albert And The Cosby Kids’ Into the Elementary School Curriculum as a Teaching Aid and Vehicle to Achieve Increased Learning”.

      But he does have about 12 honorary degrees.

      -Yesha

  13. July 18, 2013 - Reply

    “The prosecution did not tell the story well, and they lost,” Cosby said

    Agreed. I said from the jump that they were doing a piss poor job. But Cosby lost me after that statement. *sigh*

  14. July 18, 2013 - Reply

    Bill’s comments reminds me of those white people who do not believe someone is racist unless they have burned a cross, wave a Confederate flag, wore a grand wizard costume and then was photographed, participated in the murder of a non-white person, etc.

    • July 18, 2013 - Reply

      @MimiLuvs

      I agree! And perhaps Cosby sinc grew up in a time where there was more blatant racism and now he thinks everything is better now so there is no need to complain. Not to say celebrities don’t experience racism, but maybe he is now so far removed from the regular black person that he actually has forgotten what it can be like. Just my thoughts…

  15. July 18, 2013 - Reply

    Bill sounds like a guy who has been drinking the white-man-is-superior -so-why-not -do-like-him kool aid for too long.

    My honest opinion is that the problem with this trial was that trayvon was never a human being. He was a black kid. And we kno some ppl dont consider blks as humans. We may hv jumped the race card too quickly. i am not denying it was race based , just sayin mayb it shouldnt hv been tried that way

  16. July 18, 2013 - Reply

    “… If you don’t want to ruffle white people’s feathers by speaking out against racism and racial profiling, then at least add something positive to the situation by speaking out against the law that helped a grown man to stalk, provoke, and kill a teenager and get away with it…”

    I prefer if he didn’t say anything at all about it.
    Honestly, I would rather hear Paul Mooney or Dick Gregory or (if they were alive) Redd Foxx and Richard Pryor discuss this instead of Bill Cosby.

    • July 18, 2013 - Reply

      @MimiLuvs

      Dick Gregory is still alive. He is 80 and last I knew, was in better shape than Rick Ross.

      • July 18, 2013 - Reply

        @mamakilya

        I believe she was talking about Red Foxx and Richard Pryor.

        In reference to this article though, I really think that Bill Cosby is senile. I have seen and heard him up close enough to surmise that. He is not aging well and his “crotchety-ness” is not making him any more endearing than his philandering or ridiculous indictment of Black people. He is angry at us. It’s clear to me. It may be rooted in the disappointment that the older generations have in the younger, and I get that on some level, but the fact that he has an international platform makes him a bit dangerous.

  17. July 18, 2013 - Reply

    I always thought the “Innocent until proven guilty” applies to the men/women that physically look like they could be the descendants of the founder of this statement.

  18. July 18, 2013 - Reply

    alzheimers really does a doozy on the old folks

  19. July 18, 2013 - Reply

    Cosby just loves trying to put Black people down. He always has to say something patronizing, it’s as if he actually enjoys doing it as he always seems to go out of his way to do it and especially in public, just like the Obamas.

    Get the hell outta here with that “Race has nothing” to do with it BS, as if it can’t already get any more obvious that Zimmerman is a racist bastard and murderer, you even hear him on the 911 call mutter “I hate these fucking coons”. Even Nicki Minaj, who I can not stand, talked about the situation and knows that this situation is BS. NICKI MINAJ, Who’s made disgusting comments about Black women in her music (when she’s Black herself, what a dumbass)

    Fuck Cosby. He just wants White people to say “Oh, you’re one of the “good ones”, you’re not like the rest”. I hate when Black people yearn to be excepted by and pander to White people.

    Sorry for the language, but after what’s gone on this week with the case, the sentencing of the devil that shot the 13 yr old, over here in England earlier this month, it was revealed that the police had set up a smear campaign to attack the family of Stephen Lawrence trying to tarnish his name even after he died, when it took them 18 years just to jail 2 out of 4 of his killers, and the fact that there will always be injustice, hatred and racism leading to the constant threat of being murdered just for being Black I’ve had enough, especially when it’s coming from other Black people who are just kissing assess.

  20. July 18, 2013 - Reply

    Bill did not dismiss race as a component of the murder. He said, you have nothing tangible to prove that GZ was a racist during the confrontation for the courts. And though we black folk know racism or racial profiling like a sixth sense, you can’t prove to white people racism with a feeling. You need hard evidence. Trayvon was not called a n*gger or anything that would suggest he was confronting him simply cuz he was black.

    Think about it, you have a lily white women jury who don’t have a clue about race relations. B37 confirmed this. We already know if you bring race into the case with a bunch of white people, unless you can prove it with 150% assurance, they will easily dismiss it and it will work against you.

    GZ simply told 911 he was suspicious. We know what that translates to, but he never defined or justified why he thought he was. It’s all speculation that can’t be proven in court.

    Did GZ racially profile Trayvon? Allll day! Could a prosecution who themselves didn’t believe race was an issue prove it? Not on their best day. That’s why they didn’t tell the story right to Cosby’s point. Cosby is not high on pudding pops like y’all think he is on this one.

    • July 18, 2013 - Reply

      @Marq Diggs

      I wish I could give this comment 2 thumbs up. I thought the minute they made this about race the case was lost. You can’t (and shouldn’t) convict someone based on their thoughts. Zimmerman may very well have profiled Martin but there’s no hard evidence to prove this.

      I believe that if the focus had been on Zimmerman’s irresponsible actions being the catalyst for this altercation; the prosecution would have had a much stronger case. Instead, people got lost in who threw the first punch; completely ignoring the fact that if Zimmerman had heeded the 911 dispatcher’s advice and stayed in his car Trayvon Martin would still be alive.

      The prosecution’s case was weak. Racism and profiling doesn’t affect everyone the same way but anyone can be the victim of a zealot armed with a gun and extremely poor judgement. The jury could not relate to the story the prosecution was telling. Zimmerman’s defense team took advantage of that–just as a good defense team should.

      • July 18, 2013 - Reply

        @Jennifer

        2 thumbs up? That’s what’s up! Much love. 🙂

      • July 18, 2013 - Reply

        @Jennifer

        “Zimmerman may very well have profiled Martin but there’s no hard evidence to prove this.”

        Zimmerman very well DID profile Trayvon.

        1) There had been recent burglaries in the neighborhood.
        2) At least two of those burglars were black men.
        3) Trayvon was a Black boy in a hoodie
        4) Zimmerman’s comment about, “These punks…they always get away)…hello.
        3) The fact that they brought that woman on the stand to testify that, indeed, two Black men broke in her and her child’s house, and trust me, that resonated with their fears. These were white women hearing about two Black men breaking in this woman’s house with her child in her arms (I’m not blaming the woman for being scared). What was the purpose of her being on the stand? To prove Negroes broke in? They could’ve gotten a police report for that. Maybe I missed something.

        It may not be “hard” evidence, but then again, juries can be a little dense, as we’ve seen with baby killer, Casey Anthony.

      • July 20, 2013 - Reply

        @Jennifer

        If “race” is taken off the table it DOESN’T absolve gz of being guilty of MURDER.

        Trayvon was “profiled” whether racially so or not by an unstable loaded gun carrying wannabe cop. He could have been profiled for his hoodie or other clothing the way Muslims are profiled based on their clothing.

        Right wing extremist, bible thumping, gun carrying, flag waving individuals scare me (profiling) so I would never follow one with a loaded gun because it too easily creates an immediate hostile interaction. And if one used the concrete pavement in their perceived kill or be killed state of mind, I’m still very much “guilty” of the outcome of that confrontation.

        As for the “evidence” and presentation of it, Based on juror B37 there was sufficient evidence to find him guilty of 2nd Degree Murder OR Manslaughter had “Common Sense” been applied.

        It really is irrelevant whether gz is a racist or not. It is a waste of value time to fixate on that. FACT: His paranoid heart and mind caused him to MURDER an unarmed teenager

  21. July 18, 2013 - Reply

    There are many parallels between the death of Trayvon Martin and the death of Bill Cosby’s son Ennis. Cosby’s wife Camille spoke candidly in 1998 op ed pieces in Essence and USA Today that American culture had taught her son’s killer to hate blacks. She was largely attacked by the media for her “racial paranoia” and silenced, while Bill has since been given a media mouthpiece for his rants against black underachievers and, now, dismissal of race as factor in the Zimmerman shooting.

    • July 18, 2013 - Reply

      @ruggie

      Good point. It is very confusing that it has been said Cosby’s son’s killer was bragging about killing a black man, yet Cosby cannot see the parallels between the deaths. Obviously, they died in different circumstances and I am not saying they are identical situations, but there is a hatred in this country that makes it seem like it is okay to murder a black person and not feel remorse.

  22. July 18, 2013 - Reply

    If I will give thought to THIS Bill Crosby’s interview – I will get another headache and feel depressed all over again.

    It’s almost as if Bill Crosby (similar to so many) is trying to avoid the issue of racism. This truly is an oxymoron . Because while you’re attempting to uplift black people and telling them to “Do better” – by avoiding racism – you’re cosigning their death.

    I appreciate the messages of telling black people to do better b/c it is true in some areas. At the same time, I also believe by avoiding and refuse to acknowledge “blatant” racism is saying it is “okay”. Silence is STILL acceptance.

    “You can’t prove somebody is a racist unless they really come out and do the act and is found to be that.” And this statement here! It is completely disheartening. It shouldn’t take for our kids to be tangling from an oak tree, dragged by a truck, or shot up 20 times.
    The malice intent is “already” there and it is seldom proven (racist ppl already know this); thus the hatred crimes continues. I don’t LIKE you so I can KILL you.

    I know everyone isn’t going to agree. It’s just mindboggling to me how some people cannot see that Trayvon’s killing was racially motivated. Or maybe they just refuse to see it.

    • July 18, 2013 - Reply

      @P

      P, I HATE the message of “Black people, do better.” Hate it with a passion. I think the ones it applies to need to do better, but Blacks are not one entity all connected simply because we share the same ethnicity. We are as individual as anyone else.

      We ALL need to do better as we live on this planet together. What one does affects another regardless of ethnicity. If you have a person living next door to you that is a child molester, it doesn’t matter if they are Black, white, candy apple red, or Martian. They gotta do better in keeping themselves away from children.

      • July 18, 2013 - Reply

        @noirluv45

        Yes ma’am…you are right. I usually try to stick “within some areas” which includes myself. For instance with this Trayvon’s verdict – I finally decided to utilize my passion more effectively to become “more” active in my local area. I was mostly working with the education side. Not as much with the political side unless (election season) voting was involved. My point is black people do well in some areas and other races can do better as well. And We ALL will do better working collectively.

        Well anyway, this statement here ” If you have a person living next door to you that is a child molester, it doesn’t matter if they are Black, white, candy apple red, or Martian. They gotta do better in keeping themselves away from children.” So true – I don’t see race, gender or Anything at that moment. I just want them locked up and buried. . I have NO sympathy there.

      • July 18, 2013 - Reply

        @noirluv45

        Yes ma’am…you are right. I usually try to stick “within some areas” which includes myself. For instance with this Trayvon’s verdict – I finally decided to utilize my passion more effectively to become “more” active in my local area. I was mostly working with the education side. Not as much with the political side unless (election season) voting was involved. My point is black people do well in some areas and other races can do better as well. And We ALL will do better working collectively.

        Well anyway, this statement here ” If you have a person living next door to you that is a child molester, it doesn’t matter if they are Black, white, candy apple red, or Martian. They gotta do better in keeping themselves away from children.” So true – I don’t see race, gender or Anything at that moment. I just want them locked up and buried. . I have NO sympathy there.

      • July 18, 2013 - Reply

        @noirluv45

        @ P, thank you.

    • July 18, 2013 - Reply

      @P

      Also, if he’s going to confront blacks all the time, I would love he also confronted the discrimination that still takes place today AGAINST blacks. It’s like he thinks everything that happens is ALL our fault and if we just did better we’d have perfect lives.

      His lectures are only intended for blacks, which is a shame because as a well-known celebrity he could use his influence to hopefully shed light on this issue to people who don’t understand why and how racism, oppression and discrimination is STILL a problem for blacks.

      • July 18, 2013 - Reply

        @Darcy

        Darcy you’re right on! But let,s take in account Mr, Cosby is from the generation that had to overlook his race to get ahead. He also knows he made him rich

  23. July 18, 2013 - Reply

    You know, I’m going to let Bill Cosby’s comments slide. He’s never been right in the head since the senseless death of his only son Ennis, who was equally racially profiled by his killer (something his wife spoke about publicly). But instead of standing right by his wife in making a similar statement, he’s been going off at the mouth about black underachievers. So, what is he saying? The Trayvon Martins and Ennis Cosbys of the world are only gunned down because other black people give white people reasons to hate blacks? Isn’t it easier to just say they were killed by racists point blank?

    Sigh. When are we as a people going to stop giving so much power to black celebrities when they all get the same N-word treatment as the rest of us?

    Michael Jordan? Beloved sports hero the world over whose father was killed by white racists because he drove around in fancy car that his famous son bought him.

    Bill Cosby? Beloved comedian who gave us the equally beloved Cosby Show, whose son was killed by a white racist because he drove around in a fancy car that his famous father bought him.

    Michael Jackson? Whitney Houston? Both beloved until they fell apart and died tragically.

    Beyonce and Jay-Z? Are these two paying attention? This is why Harry Belafonte is holding them accountable. Having lots of fame and money WILL NOT PROTECT YOU AND YOURS FROM RACISM!

    • July 18, 2013 - Reply

      @Jem

      ~Tell it!

  24. July 18, 2013 - Reply

    Look I don’t agree with everything Cosby says in recent years. But are you really arguing the fact that you can’t PROVE racism in these types of folk and cases? Any thinking person can figure it out, but absolute proof? That’s what he’s saying. Let’s be real. He’s talking about the difference between covert and overt racism. There is a difference. That’s why it seems more difficult to fight in these times. Covert owns the day.

    Don’t many people who have a problem with the verdict have beef with the prosecution?

    However, his statement of let’s not even go into any discussion of race and racism? He can miss me all day with that.

    • July 18, 2013 - Reply

      @niksmit

      Exactly!! I believe Zimmerman is a covert racist like most people, (i.e. they’ve been conditioned to be subliminally racist by society) but there is no substantial evidence to prove that Zimmerman targeted and killed Trayvon becuase he was black.

      Even though Bill Crosby can often come across as one of those upitty blacks who dismiss and criticize the struggles of many blacks by saying “If I can become a 1%ter than anybody can” he is right in this instance the evidence/proof is just not there.

      I don’t know if Zimmerman is an overt racist and I don’t care, I do know that is system is overtly racist and that is what I care about.

  25. July 18, 2013 - Reply

    People may disagree with me, but I believe Bill Cosby is a part of the Black Boule. He’s doing what he was commissioned to do. JMO.

    I never liked him from the beginning.

  26. July 18, 2013 - Reply

    Can we prove it? As in tests, lab values, x-rays, MRI’s no. But the large amount of racial comments made by Zimmerman and that juror can lead any reasonable person to believe that Zimmerman is a racist. “They”, “Them,” “These people” are synonymous with racism!!!!!

  27. July 18, 2013 - Reply

    What happened to my other comment? Bill Cosby didn’t say anything incorrect.

    Cosby said you have to prove (by law) Zimmerman did a racist act. He said the prosecutor did a poor job, Zimmerman was told not to leave the car. Zimmerman was reckless and felt empowered by having a gun and Florida’s law is flawed.

    Please tell me what was incorrect about Cosby’s comment. Not once does he say nor infer that Zimmerman is innocent. Have we gotten to the point that a black man can’t make valid points without being demonized? I think we have……

  28. July 18, 2013 - Reply

    Okay, I get what he means by the media and that the prosecution dropped the ball in some places. However, I think if you add everything up, most rational people will at the least agree that Zimmerman racially profiled Trayvon. I personally think he is a racist, based on what his cousin said and also what his brother and father have said in regards to black people.

    Personally, I agreed with Bill Cosby when he talked about the break down in the black community and how it needed to be fixed. However, I don’t agree with him on this. I am not saying all black people have to think alike, but I am tired of some people making it seem like “oh the defense won, this wasn’t about race. the end,. as we all shouldn’t be digesting and analyzing what just happened.

  29. July 18, 2013 - Reply

    maybe they did not want to convict?

    they threw the case. they knew what they were doing all along.
    these are the same prosecutors who put the black women in for 20 years, remember?

    • July 18, 2013 - Reply

      @jamesfrmphilly

      yep!!! THEY DID NOT EVER WANT TO CONVICT HIM!! Angela Correy’s ol smirkin arse is just as corrupt as the day is long!! Remember he was only being prosecuted because the public demanded it. They knew what they were doing with their lackluster prosecution, even down to okaying that vile jury.

      However, I will say this, half of that jury’s mind was made up walking in the door, so there was little that was going to change in the first place. The person who can tell his side of the story is DEAD.

  30. July 18, 2013 - Reply

    There is a lot of misinformation being spread here. Zimmerman NEVER said “f’ing coon.” CNN retracted that insinuation long ago (they were the news channel that fanned the racial flames early on in the case.) Also, NBC fanned those same flames when purposely edited Zimmerman comments to make it appear that he was targeting Martin only because he was black. NBC is being sued – rightfully so – for that miscarriage of justice. we have the press also referring to Zimmerman as a “White Hispanic.” There is no such term (has the Press ever referred, for example, to Pres. Obama as a White-African American? Never!)

    There is not one scintilla that Zimmerman was a racist. All the evidence was quite to the contrary and that is why the FBI did not touch this case long ago when it looked at it initially.

    This is not a case about race. Yet, the Press, and leaders of the African American community WANT it to be. Why? This is the lasting legacy of this case. Why is it so? Why would they want this case to be labeled racial? The clear answer is because that want it to be racial because it then fits squarely within the paradigm of race that eixsted and justified their existence for so long. Why is their attention not focused on black versus black crime (four black youths were murdered in Chicago during the time span of the Zimmerman trial .) Where is the outrage and indignation surrounding that issue? The Zimmerman case – even IF it were racially motivated – pales in comparison to the real problems of the African-American community. However, as long as leaders can satisfy themselves to their constiuency by marching and demonstrating against the perceived problems, the real problems continue to fester. Real change then can never be affected. Cosby, when he speaks about the REAL problems of the African-American community then is resoundly derided as a puppet for whites. NO one then is permitted to address the real issues at hand lest THEY be portrayed as a racist. It is a pernicious and viscous cycle. It is THEN what created Trevon Martin in the first place. Why was he so attracted to the thugs that inhabit Hip Hop culture? His texts make it clear that he was motivated to become a “thug.” Why was that deporable lifestyle and set of values so appealing to him? Why did he not chose to stay in school? What is it about the African-American community that glorifies that culture? The answer is clear – that in a vacumn (i.e., no one is allowed to criticize or evaluate), those sort of culture and values prosper. Until there is a paradigm shift in the thinking of the African-American community on these topics it will continued to be hampered and held down. As long as the leaders of the African American community can only view issues through a racial prism they will blinded by that same prism.

    • July 18, 2013 - Reply

      @Cosbyfan

      Cracker please.

    • July 18, 2013 - Reply

      @Cosbyfan

      Cosby fan, racists, like you who call Trayvon Martin a thug because of some pictures he took are no better than the creatures who lynched blacks for looking at white women or talking back.
      Besides posting pictures, that did that boy ever do? Don’t hand me some crap about him smoking pot either, probably 20 million people of all backgrounds smoke pot in America.

      He was a teen with no criminal record, not a thug. Anyone who calls him a thug is a liar.

    • July 18, 2013 - Reply

      @Cosbyfan

      what!! what!! what does the comment about Martin’s life have to do with him walking toward home, tending to his own business, and end up being killed. Zimmerman never stated that Treyvon did anything to draw suspicion to his self. he didnt look in anyone window. he was not standing by anyone car, he did not come from anyone yard. and to top it all, Zimmerman was not in his neighborhood.

    • July 19, 2013 - Reply

      @Cosbyfan

      “One of his relatives and co workers said he’s racist.”
      One? That’s the best you can do? Why didn’t the prosecution bring any character witnesses on Treyvon’s behalf? You know, to show that he wasn’t the confrontational sort. The defense brought more than a few for Mr. Zimmerman.

  31. July 18, 2013 - Reply

    Do I believe that race played a factor?
    Is the Pope a Catholic?
    So, people are going to ignore the fact that GZ was released from police custody after being interviewed for a few hours, on the night of the murder?
    Then there’s the fact that there wasn’t going to be a trial for this dude originally.
    I seriously doubt that the outcome would’ve been the same if GZ was a black man and TM was a white child… Hell, TM could’ve been a black kid or an Asian child and the outcome wouldn’t have been the same.
    TM’s past indiscretions wouldn’t have been brought up. GZ’s previous run-ins with the law would’ve been. The child molestation accusation would’ve been brought so many times. The resisting arrest charge. The accusation of domestic violence (and if the woman was white, then she would’ve been giving interviews).
    From what I’ve read GZ was slightly bigger in stature than TM, so can you imagine the reaction if a black GZ stated that he fought a white TM, feared for his life and ended up shooting him?
    How many people would give that person the ‘n**** please’ look?

  32. July 18, 2013 - Reply

    FWFW : has any black person gotten off on ‘stand your ground” anywhere?

  33. July 18, 2013 - Reply

    What he is saying is correct. The charge against Zimmerman is violations of civil rights, constitution and manslaughter. None of which require race in order for him to be found guilty. If he jumped out the car and said “I am going to get that n**ger” then you have a race trial. But that didn’t happen and most of the racial aspect came AFTER the actual killing when the DA and the cops decided not to prosecute the man. That is where race became a factor. As for the actual events of that evening when Trayvon was killed, race has very little to do with it. By his own admission, Zimmerman felt Trayvon had committed a crime or was about to commiit a crime with no evidence, civil rights violation #1. Then he pursued the young man as if he was guilty of doing something wrong with no evidence. Another civil rights violation. Then he confronted the man with the intent to stop, detain, question, prevent or apprehend a suspect of a crime, again with no evidence and again a civil rights violation. In order for a civilian to pursue a citizens arrest you have to have either seen the crime or have solid evidence a crime was committed where Zimmerman had ZERO evidence of anything. The only thing he really should have done was call the cops and anything outside of that are not inherently his “right” to do. You don’t have a right to falsely accuse someone as a criminal with no evidence. And then on top of all of that, to prove manslaughter, you simply have to show how Zimmerman’s actions led to Trayvon’s death. Simple. He admits it and the 911 tapes prove that without a doubt. He had a choice, he was not under threat and in his own voice on the 911 call he decided to confront the young man. And bang. The young man is dead. Simple open and shut case and race is not even required to prove it.

    • July 18, 2013 - Reply

      @WhatIThink

      i truly believe this

  34. July 18, 2013 - Reply

    i understand what Mr. Cosby is saying. The prosecution was weak as hell. they were poor as hell. I could of done better by 100%. Makes me wonder if they were a set up form the start up.

  35. July 18, 2013 - Reply

    Water is wet.

    Grass is green.

    Like we didn’t already know that Bill Cosby nowadays is pretty much Uncle Ruckus.

    • July 19, 2013 - Reply

      @PineApple

      This man has given more to the black community than anyone on this site. He has given millions of dollar towards the education of black people. What the hell have you done? My guess…not a damn thing.

  36. July 18, 2013 - Reply

    Ok Uncle Bill….I’m usually with you on your observations; but can’t get with you on this one!!!

  37. July 19, 2013 - Reply

    I think Cosby was saying this because most of critique on the black community revolves around the stereotype of who Trayvon was portrayed to be. Trayvon had on the type of clothing and used the type of language towards Zimmerman that Bill Cosby often rants about. Therefore, we shouldn’t be surprised he feels this way. What is surprising is that Bill Cosby was asked his opinion about the trial…since when does he did he become the mouthpiece for our people for criminal cases involving African Americans? Have a seat sir!

  38. July 19, 2013 - Reply

    The president is calling for calm and reflection in regard to this situation, and I concur. Judging George Zimmerman to be no less than a white supremacist is not contributing to that.

  39. July 19, 2013 - Reply

    They may have asked Cosby because his son was shot and murdered by a white man…

  40. July 19, 2013 - Reply

    Trayvon lost from the time those cops showed up and let a man who killed a kid go home and sleep in his bed like Trayvon didn’t matter. Trayvon was less than human to Zimmerman, the police, and the jury; and to some degree the state’s attorney’s office who did a half baked job.

    That doesn’t mean that you don’t call out racism or fight injustice because it wears a 3 piece suit instead of a hood.

  41. July 19, 2013 - Reply

    I agree that this case should not have been argued on a racial basis because it was not proveable that way. Unless some very very extreme words were or actions were used by Zimmerman (before the murder), it was too easy for Zimmerman’s words to be seen as not racist or only mildly racist.

    On the other hand, this case should have been argued as a stalking case, a violation of Trayvon Martin’s right to safety and right to walk down a public street without feeling threatened, TRAYVON’S right to stand his grown against an unprovoked threat – which the Prosecution RUINED spectacularly.

    The focus on race at all was a waste of time – I would have made this into simply what it was – a murder of an unarmed teenager who did NOTHING even remotely criminal or wrong that night. But the Prosecution chose another path, thus they lost.

    I think all Cosby is saying that it is very hard to prove racial cases unless something very obvious is said or done, racially. Just saying “they always get away with it” means nothing – Zimmerman could’ve been talking about “teenagers always get away with it” or “males always get away with it” or anything. Same for profiling – maybe he profiled all teenaged males, not necessarily Black ones. Racism was not provable in THIS INCIDENT. His statement was not provable IN COURT that he was racist, even though WE all know he was only one step away from being a Klan member.

    What WAS proveable was that Zimmermna committed murder with no provocation, no just cause, and threatened Trayvon. But the prosecution did a terrible job of showing that and in my opinion, threw the case intentionally.

  42. July 21, 2013 - Reply

    As far as I’m concerned, we are dealing with two extremes. One side, mostly white, swears racism is in our heads. The other side, blacks, think every slight, put down or event is racist. The truth is in the middle. Do I think Zimmerman killed Trayvon? Duh…Do I think he profiled him? Duh…Do I think all of these protests should actually head back to the black communities rife with crime, like me old home town and nearby Chicago? Do I think we would be better served teaching male and females to get a long? Do I think we should smack parents who spend more on Xbox, Gameboys, and Lebron Shoes than on education? Why can your child recite every Lil Wayne, 2Chain, N Minaj, and JayZ rift but not fundamental math and reading? THAT’S the real trouble. Why don’t we support our businesses? Why do our periodicals put the same athletes, hip hop performers, and actors in articles? Why do we allow our own light skinned vs dark skinned…black enough or not black enough? Willie Lynch style stupidity.

    The facts were rife with holes. I think the prosecution rushed to a case and didn’t really prepare. One may argue that was because they didn’t plan to bring a case at all or, more closer to the truth, they were looking for legal ground and building their story. I for one want us to back to the drawing board and stop defending and promoting the thug life and stupidity of men in our normative culture. I want us to embrace other cultures. Learn. Look more closely, and find commonalities. If we lift ourselves up and then find these moments of prejudice–which they still do exist–permeating, THEN it’s time to raise alarm. If, however, we aren’t protesting the cycle of crooked, money taking acolytes we’ve inherited or selected, or the thugs with guns who look like our kids, sell drugs to our kids and look like our kids, and if we can get the mama drama over with between men and women of kids who aren’t together, maybe it won’t matter what others think. The media will NEVER hold us in positive light because they need a dummy to use a bailiwick against all other cultures. First it was the Jews, Irish and Italians and us. We’re still here because we’ve abandoned the teachings of Garvey, Malcolm, and Martin. Sad to say, no one will respect us until we respect ourselves. Butt cheeks hanging out with cheap bad weave, pants dangling off hips showing underwear, and thinking a prison record is a rite of manly passage? Who told us buffoonery was in style again? SMH.

  43. July 22, 2013 - Reply

    Cosby’s son was killed by a white racist who didn’t understand all the fuss over him killing a n##ger drug dealer. Cosby cannot face the fact that his own son was profiled so he focuses his anger at black people. It is sad that a man that has done so much for black people in the past has turned into a bitter old man. Google Camile Cosby’s heartbreaking essay “Racism in U.S. is Responsible” to read her opinion of her son’s tragic death.

    • July 25, 2013 - Reply

      @Friday Foster-ABWW (@eshowoman)

      I wondered what happened to the Cos, he turned bitter a while back…condescending and rude @ times…thank you! I have been arguing with black folks that think it is sacrelige to tell the truth abt ole Cos!! he was correct in saying that the prosecution pretty much sucked but that was his only truth!!

    • September 24, 2013 - Reply

      @Friday Foster-ABWW (@eshowoman)

      91.1 at the University of MA is inundated by white racists. I say this because they have been all over the air with the sexual extortion of current and former students and their pretended anti-dealer campaign and pretended when they have gravely injured informants. 91.1 is UMASS radio. Not only do they breed racism if not by exposing students to their filth but by use of violence (see WHAI / WMAS refers to their units as skinners and force feeds those they extort the skins of mental perverts when sexualizing their targets over the air). 91.1 burned the head of a black man and force fed his feces to a white woman they were comparing intelligence and genitals to. Worse, they burned the neck of the EMS operator delivering the black man to the emergency room.

      “Our March Madness gaming!” these putrids at 91.1 go on to say while demanding money. “We’ll reel them by the eyeball and back to campus for ((some sums)) if we wish to! We’ll target the anti – UMASS sports athlete if we want to. We’ll force you to eat shoe, sniff feet and slurp an athletes armpit because we felt like it.”

      “Like so!” they dare say while employing sound similar used in turbo engines and when forcing their targets to swallow these agents. See: Laser Guided Technology.

      WMAS and WHAI accommodate when engaged in child and adult snuff and when marketing themselves as agents ready and willing to shut one raped by these creeps at UMASS and then themselves up.

      “I thoroughly enjoy offing the first born son, the sons generally” they dare say when calling themselves the lord and when soliciting donations. “We’ll reel you by the eyeballs if we wish to” they say when burning the eyes; and, “the blacks are here to s*uck our dic*ks!”

      When demonstrating their truth in this regard they go on to force listeners or others in the area to listen to those DJs at 90.7 do just that. We are forced to listen to them engage perverted sex acts. This while finding the audacity to solicit a celebrity judge with the threat of forcing this judge to consume a mental degenerate.

      In my case, these pews threatened with the genitalia a worker at UMASS. This while claiming they not only had the right to extort Cosby or to suggest his son was killed over the extortion lawsuit he endured but that they had a right to press this matter in such a way so as to re-inact it. Imagine finding yourself confronted by some bunch of marooned, green commie pews out of the University of Massachusetts (91.1) — some your child’s age and some into their fifties who then dare insist on calling you mommy or insist one is related in any way at all.

      This when some pervert such as Ed Carroll of News 40 and those rapists as are at 90.7 not only rape and injure the student body, former student body and more but then target their families when at it. Pork face Madsen and the weather man at WWLP for example are making a go at child snuff film sales overseas. This while Madsen affords gross types out of WMAS an opportunity to covertly survey the genitals of minor children residing at the UMASS family housing.

      This while they refer to themselves as the most nig. One not naturally inclined to find itself discerning when contemplating race then begins to do do. A nigger pervert murderer is a nigger pervert murderer. White, Black, Yellow, Smurf like blue.

  44. July 26, 2013 - Reply

    What’s wrong with the point he was trying to make? Is it because he wasnt ranting about “whiteys this whiteys that ” and “white people hold us back all the time”? BS? Whether or not this Zimmerman was racist should be irrelevant. The case should have left race out, and focused on the fact that he MURDERED a child.

    But the Trayvon case, since race was brought needs to be focused on the real source of the problem in terms of race relations in America.You all are complaining that the death of Trayvon is being treated as the death of a non human? Well why do you think that is? Because his skin is dark and that’s it?

    No lets go a little deeper.

    You know the saying no one will respect you until you respect yourself? The black community is filled with so many people who literally are walking stereotypes. Too many blacks especially black youth DO NOT RESPECT THEMSELVES.

    Blacks boys kill each other constantly at such a high amount in comparison to white on white crime. YET blacks are not even a majority. Statistically what takes the life of black youth? It is either a bullet, or a petty fight. Are white kids being killed off in these petty situations by other white kids at high rates? NO.

    Why does the majority of black youth turn Hip Hop and gansta rap to an actual cultural lifestyle? You guys like to say “oh white kids listen to rap music to” HELLOOO do the majority of white kids turn rap music into an actual culture and mimic the stupid rap videos!? NO. Why don’t enough black parents teach their kids that the stupid rap gangsta videos should not be mimicked? White parents don’t allow their kids to turn the rap music they listen to to be brought home and to a job interview or everywhere they go.

    This is what causes non blacks especially white people, to be DESENSITIZED to the death of a black boy.

    Until our community gets its shit together. People will see us differently. STOP blaming slavery for everything. That is really pathetic and immature. You guys think only us blacks had ancestors who were oppressed by whites? Hispanics and jews and Asians bring themselves together , make no excuses, and never blame the past for anything.

    • July 26, 2013 - Reply

      @Deidra

      Could not have said it any better myself, thank you!!!!

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