Yesha Callahan

Azealia Banks States Why She Doesn’t Date Black Men

https://instagram.com/p/0zkHy2n1f_/?taken-by=azealiabanks

What was supposed to be only a simple selfie posted by Azealia Banks on Instagram, ended up with the rapper explaining why she doesn’t date black men. What’s most interesting is that Banks, at least online, seems to want to come off as a pseudo-social justice warrior when it comes to black people, but she doesn’t date black men:

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It’s always interesting to hear why someone chooses to not date their own race. By interesting, I mean sad. Date, mate with whomever you want, but keep your asinine reasons and self-hate to yourself.

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Clutchettes, what do you think about her comments?

  1. March 30, 2015 - Reply

    “Black men take black women for granted” …….Since when have white men (as a whole) shown appreciation and respect for black women?

    • March 30, 2015 - Reply

      @_a_

      When did she say white men were better? The world isn’t black and white.

      • March 30, 2015 - Reply

        @KissOfDanger

        The comment left on her page referenced her only dating,”old WHITE dudes with money”.This is something that she has talked candidly about in the past.Thats what I’m going by.Whether it was intentional or not, her comment is comparing black men to white men. Also,my comment can apply to all non black men.Since when have non black men as a whole ever been more appreciative and respectful to bw?

        • March 30, 2015 - Reply

          @_a_

          They never will be appreciative as a whole. You are dating an individual.

          • March 30, 2015 - Reply

            @KissOfDanger

            I’m responding to Ms.Banks judging black men as a whole.To say that bm take black women for granted is generalizing.Some individual bm may take bw for granted, just like some wm may.My point is that she is making it seem as if she can’t deal with bm because of they way that they act when non black men are no better.Men are men.

            • March 30, 2015 - Reply

              @_a_

              Let’s not play dumb here. There are waaay more quality black women out there than black men. No woman should have to look under every rock, crack, or crevice like black women do to find a good man.

              • March 30, 2015 - Reply

                @KissOfDanger

                Trust me there are more than a few quality black woman who find quality black men with out having to look under every rock or crevice.

                Sometimes it is about where you are looking and if in fact you are actually a quality woman who is attracting a quality man.

                • March 30, 2015 - Reply

                  @Brad

                  Ah, and as usual once again there it is: the unending black male critique of us black women and how we once again fail, somehow, against a backdrop of ex felons, deadbeat dads, aspiring rappers and dropouts, to meet the quite reasonable standards of our supposed mates and cohorts.

                  • March 30, 2015 - Reply

                    @Heather Ferreira

                    No actually I am a 40ish Engineer who has been married to the same black woman for 23 years. I don’t own and floppy paints and haven’t been in a club in over 10 years and the last time I was it was with her.

                    Drive a used VW Jetta and am too worried about keeping my security clearance to start a gun fight. My wife college educated as well and she had no problem finding a quality man such as my self as I had no problems finding her.

                    My friends are Engineers and Principles and they don’t spend any time in the club either. Guess we are all HBCU graduate black elites so it works for us.

                    • March 30, 2015 - Reply

                      @Brad

                      Hm… I won’t doubt what you’re saying, but as an NYU alumna, I can’t quite ignore the fact that your spelling and grammar don’t resemble the education level at which my engineer father was, and they seem to subtly undermine what you’re claiming. So what university did you attend, engineer? I’ve identified mine; and I continue to stand by my words.

                      I want to avoid any cognitive bias, but based upon my own experience, most blacks with a good education agree with what I stated up above earlier and would agree the guns-in-clubs and my-entourage male peer pressure proclivity is a serious threat to the African-American community, any successful assimilation on our part into majority society, and our future. Yet here you are claiming no membership in thug culture, yet queerly defending it.

                      That’s curious indeed.

                      But I know my opinion; “everyone on the internet is a doctor or lawyer” and you’re making things up to defend your turf. Nobody here can know who the mockery-of-a-white-male-American-name usernamed “Brad” really is or where he went to school, or whether what you’re saying about you is true. In my opinion, lol… you’re a doctor. 🙂

                      To contrary readers can Google me instantly and know that where I say I went to school and what my job is are true.

                      Now, “black elite”; that’s an interesting term.

                      Me, I’m just a woman of significantly black heritage who agrees with a female rapper I’ve never heard rap because she dates non-black men, and so do I, and I’m familiar both with her struggles and the multitudinous angry black PUAs named “Brad” who make it your business to get into mind and who shares the bed I sleep in. If yours is an elite, sir, forever deny me membership.

                      • March 30, 2015 - Reply

                        @Heather Ferreira

                        Tuskegee University Aerospace Engineer class of 1991 and yes my spelling is awful even with auto correct.

                        My wife her name may also sound white to you she graduated FAMU my father the Engineer as well Hampton University. Brothers Tennessee State University also married black woman and don’t spent time in the clubs.

                        I will say this although we probably don’t agree on much or wouldn’t agree on much continue to make good use if that intellect of yours. It seems to be on over drive and that’s not always a bad thing.

                        • March 30, 2015 - Reply

                          @Brad

                          I’m no intellect. I’m just a woman who dates as she likes and believes sexual preference based on specific haplogroup (i.e., race) is as biological and impossible to change as sexual orientation, and to hate or insult and condemn others for dating interracially is a hate crime: one as serious as homophobia, that should bring similar or even identical consequences. The idea others have the right to condemn or control whom others love is one that seriously, here in the 21st century in America, needs to die.

                          Have a great week and take care.

                          • March 30, 2015 - Reply

                            @Heather Ferreira

                            Take care

                          • March 31, 2015 - Reply

                            @Heather Ferreira

                            Just what you stated you are no intellect and any intellect will tell you your analogy is baseless and resultant of internalized racism. I just want you to think somewhat critically about the word preference. Preference is not innate, it is a product of habitus. Habitus results from ingrained social patterns particularly, insidious internalized racism. When you say as a black woman, that I just prefer white men, you have internalized white supremacy. Point Blank Period.

                            I would suggest that you read about Marcel Mauss’ discussion on technique and the body as well as Pierre Bordieu’s discussion about Habitus.

                            For example, I prefer cheesecake, but when I ask myself why I prefer cheesecake, I think back to moments with my mother when I was a child and that’s what she would serve us at home or when we went out. See, in that statement, I was not mentally lazy and thought critically about how I came to prefer cheesecake over apple pie. Even the most trivial preferences are based in social patterns and environmental exposure.

                    • April 3, 2015 - Reply

                      @Brad

                      Who has lighter skin you or your “black” wife? Is your “black” wife actually bi-racial?

                • March 31, 2015 - Reply

                  @Brad

                  Well thank you I do attract quality men but becuase of the area they mostly aren’t black. Oh well.

              • March 30, 2015 - Reply

                @KissOfDanger

                Are you being obtuse? _a_ just basically hand-held you through some basic critical thinking.

                By saying she dates white men because Black men take Black women for granted, she is categorically stating that white men treat Black women better. Which is delusional and just dumb. She is also generalizing both Black and white men, so why are you trying to pretend like she’s talking about the individual? When you exclude your own entire race, you’re suffering from some combination of resentment and self hate. When you act pro-Black while hopping and skipping other people of color to exclusively date the same whites that oppress your people, you’re mentally off and silly. When you’re a black teenage girl who sleeps with 40 year old white guys that treat you like garbage, and then turn around and state that Black men take Black women for granted; your idiocy, delusion, resentment, and self hate are on overdrive.

                Please define “quality.” Quality Black women have no problem getting quality Black men. They certainly neither outnumber their counterparts, nor do they have an easier time finding quality men of other races. That is a fact. So I’m not sure exactly what point you’re trying to make.

                This Azelia just chick is plain retarded. She’s on playboy busting it wide open talking about Black pride and how much she hates white people and America — and yet consistently submits to white dudes that pretty much use and dispose of her. Why can’t she just honestly say that Black guys never gave her attention and she’s secretly jealous of white women and be over with it? And maybe grow up and get some healing instead of acting all bipolar on every social platform.

                As someone astutely stated on her instagram: “You can’t yell black power with a pink pen!s in your mouth.”

                • March 30, 2015 - Reply

                  @TeflonD

                  LMAO! This is such a ludicrous rant it’s almost not even worth responding to, but I’ll play. Why is there always an assumption that if a black woman dates interracially, it’s because black men don’t want her? This is an insulting fallacy that needs to be put to rest once and for all. News flash: Not all black women want black men. Some black women actually find white men more attractive, better lovers, better providers, more successful, more ambitious, etc. I know plenty of beautiful black women who are happily married to or dating white men. Black men were never on their radar. I know this is hard for many to believe and accept, but it’s true.

                  As for that ignorant comment on Azealia’s Instagram, tell Kanye, Harry Belafonte, Sidney Poitier, John Legend, David Oyelowo, Frederick Douglass, Henry Louis Gates Jr, Cornel West, and every other pro-black celebrity/activist with white wives/girlfriends: “You can’t yell black power with your d*ck buried in white p*ssy!”

                  • March 30, 2015 - Reply

                    @Giselle

                    “Why is there always an assumption that if a black woman dates interracially, it’s because black men don’t want her.”

                    Nowhere did I imply that. Feel free to refute anything that I’ve written. Actually don’t. You clearly aren’t too bright. Like I said, a “pro-black” person that exclusively dates whites is mentally off. So no gotcha gold star for you, sorry. You’d have to be intelligent enough. Go make your angry lists elsewhere.

                    • March 30, 2015 - Reply

                      @TeflonD

                      LOL. Just as I thought. You can’t refute a word I’ve said. Typical. We both know what you meant when you suggested that Azealia should just come right out and admit that black guys never gave her any attention. But whatever.

                      Anyway, based on my education and career achievements, I think it’s safe to say that I’m considered pretty intelligent by any standards. LOL. And no anger here, sweetie. I’m happily married to a wonderful black man and we’re raising beautiful children who have bright, promising futures. I just get tired of the same bullshit, misogyny and double standards where my beautiful black sisters are concerned. Since you can’t engage in intelligent discourse without resorting to childish insults, I will bid you good night now. 🙂

                      • March 30, 2015 - Reply

                        @Giselle

                        Um. Actually, you had nothing to refute (glad you picked up a new word though). And you certainly aren’t bright because what I said about Stacey Dash is the antithesis of what you’re projecting. You just did not comprehend what I wrote. Else, there would be no need for your asinine list. You’re educated? Sorry, but your cognitive skills and deductive reasoning still suck.

                        Goodnight, sweetie. Grab that teddy bear real close lol.

                        • March 31, 2015 - Reply

                          @TeflonD

                          Dude, you are pathetic and insultingly transparent. But keep telling yourself that you’re operating on some higher plane of intelligence if it comforts you in the lonely hours of the night. Lol. There’s a word for “men” who stalk women’s online spaces to castigate and lecture them about the dating preferences of a grown woman you will never meet. Hmm…what could that word be? Loser, maybe? Sounds about right. Your amusing responses have told me all I need to know about your level of “depth,” so there’s no need for me to continue this pointless “discussion” with you. Feel free to put away the dictionary now.

                          Good day and Godspeed.

                          • March 31, 2015 - Reply

                            @Giselle

                            Lol. Weren’t you supposed to be gone? No where did I ever chastise anyone’s dating preferences, you dummy. And if anyone truly cared who you dated, you wouldn’t be pathologically lonely. I wouldn’t expect a rabid gang with the mental development of infants to synthesize such logic. Why are you getting all angry and fascist because you can’t argue a trivial point like rational adult? Switching your handle multiple times just to perv on me will not make you any less psychotic or brainless. I’m not interested. Go away. You’re dismissed.

                    • April 1, 2015 - Reply

                      @TeflonD

                      Yes, you did imply that!

                      • April 1, 2015 - Reply

                        @KissOfDanger

                        Not really. You’re obviously illiterate because you’re basing your critique of what I said on another person’s disjointed premise. I never even once mentioned interracial dating, so save your projections for your therapist.

                        If you must know, what I said is that when people get bitter and make broad generalizations as an excuse for shunning their own race, it’s mostly due to rejection. When you like someone genuinely, you really don’t have to make an excuse for it. What I wrote is pretty simple and plain for anyone that can process basic information to see.

                        You know what? Why don’t you just go ahead and skip my comments going forward? You’re far too dense and deflective for rational discourse. Like I said, _a_ painstakingly handheld you through basic critical thinking and you were still clueless. So, miss “quality” black female, why don’t you go learn to read and then play in your lane? Good bye.

                  • March 30, 2015 - Reply

                    @Giselle

                    I 100% cosign this. Some Black women certainly do find white men to be better LOVERS and all of the rest that you said. This is our EXPERIENCE. My husband is a good husband to me in all the ways that count and being a good lover, provider, and our compatibility are key to me. We love each other. I am very satisfied with him and I know that. I’m not imagining that. That has nothing to do with Black men in any kind of way.

                    • March 31, 2015 - Reply

                      @Beroa

                      Personally I would much rather read about how wonderful your husband is than blanket assumptions about men who look like me that probably don’t in consideration choices made by the person making the assumptions that affected her relationships with said men.

                      As I said before, I am happy for anyone who is happy.

                  • March 30, 2015 - Reply

                    @Giselle

                    “You can’t yell black power with your d’ck buried in white p’ssy!”

                    LOL, I have to remember that one!

                    • March 30, 2015 - Reply

                      @Anthony

                      Glad you appreciated that one, Anthony. I just couldn’t resist. 😉

                  • March 31, 2015 - Reply

                    @Giselle

                    Chiwetel Ejiofor, Quincy Jones, W. Kamau Bell, James Earl Jones, Sammy Davis, Jr., both Key and Peele, Terrence Howard, Neil Degrasse Tyson, Tavis Smiley, Donald Faison, Jamie Foxxx, Evan Ross, my cousin…

                    • March 31, 2015 - Reply

                      @Jo 'Mama' Besser

                      The NFL, the NBA, MLB, EPL, NCAA…

                  • April 1, 2015 - Reply

                    @Giselle

                    Bingo! But that one Tuskegee aerospace engineer wants us to keep looking.

                • March 31, 2015 - Reply

                  @TeflonD

                  Where in the article did she say that? You lack critical thinking becuase the guy on twitter asking her a question said that. Even if she did date older white men. WHO THE FUCK CARES!? Not all white folks are BAD! Not all white men are bad and neither are black men but lets not act like one isn’t more problematic when it comes to relationships. Geez!

                  • March 31, 2015 - Reply

                    @KissOfDanger

                    Where did she say what? She clearly admitted that much. So it appears you’re the one without cognitive skills. My point is, don’t be a nutty hypocrite generalizing people because you’re bitter. It’s really not that complicated. I noticed you dodged every other thing I said though. How can there be waaaay more “quality” Black women, and yet they seem to be left out? Either you do not comprehend what “quality” means, you do not understand math, or you’re just pulling random things out of your backside. Come back when you can express a coherent thought without spazzing out. Actually, don’t.

                • April 2, 2015 - Reply

                  @TeflonD

                  “When you act pro-Black while hopping and skipping over other people of color to exclusively date the same whites that oppress your people, you’re mentally off and silly. When you’re a black teenage girl who sleeps with 40 year old white guys that treat you like garbage, and then turn around to state that you’re doing so because Black men take Black women for granted; your idiocy, delusion, resentment, and self hatred are on overdrive.”

                  Totally agree. Some black people want to yell that black people aren’t a monolith in one breath but then turn around and spew stereotypes about their own people in the next breath….hypocrites.

              • March 30, 2015 - Reply

                @KissOfDanger

                only women without options say things like this. There are tons of quality black men out there and the only women complaining are the women no one is pursuing. So they either become faux lesbians or date interracially. And shes dating old wrinkly white men on top of that, that sure is quality huh?

                • March 30, 2015 - Reply

                  @james

                  You sound recently rejected. Well, as a black woman dating a white guy older than you, interracially, ok, I’ll take the bait; I’ll answer your question:

                  YES.

                  Rather high quality. I have my own company. I’m dating an older white guy. He’s super. He sends me flowers, he tries to pay all my bills and certainly can (out of pride I fight him on that and restrict my bank account number so he cannot), he cherishes me like I’m a rose, protects me like a diamond, and sends me right about 70 texts a day reminding me how to him, how precious I am. This guy is a captain of industry, a recognized author and business owner known internationally. He recognizes my hard work and focus, we talk business as well as love, and white brother GETS me.

                  Compare to the last African-American guy I met who called one of my sisters-in-melanin his bitches an’ hoes, kicks back on his latest’s couch expecting her to serve him like he’s a Latin King, and sleeps with other girls – all white and Latina – in her bed while she works 8:30 to 5.

                  He’s not the norm but he’s enough of a majority many sisters are waking up realizing we CAN opt out of this futureless, sad scenario. In my case, dating white or Asian was a preference, a biological one, present in me pretty much from kindergarten.

                  He is quality, and that preference has turned out to be a godsend that protected my future and has probably also saved my life and improved the quality of the lives of any future children I might or may not decide to have.

                  El problemo no es in mi casa, pero su.

                  • March 30, 2015 - Reply

                    @Heather Ferreira

                    just because you have poor taste in black men and have had bad experiences with the ones youve interacted with, doesnt mean white men as a whole are better. Only people who are undesirable by their communities standards bash their own community. Gtfoh with that self hate.

                    • March 30, 2015 - Reply

                      @james

                      Cocaine is a helluva drug

                      • March 31, 2015 - Reply

                        @Heather Ferreira

                        LMAO!!!! Hilarity.

                  • March 30, 2015 - Reply

                    @Heather Ferreira

                    And lol @ ur shaming tactics. I’m in a relationship with a BLACK WOMAN

                    • March 30, 2015 - Reply

                      @james

                      Then get off the damned computer her 9 to 5 ass is most likely out there working to pay high speed internet for, get a life, and man up and go make yourself worth something to her this evening instead of wasting PUA negging and weak sauce attempted Sith Flirt on a working woman online who can’t even see you and trust me wouldn’t date you if she did 🙂

                      You sound like a prize. Gimme your wife’s address so I can mail her a copy of Swirl 🙂

                      • March 30, 2015 - Reply

                        @Heather Ferreira

                        LOL @ you suggesting my wife works and i mooch off her. Is that ur experience with black men? Did your daddy use ur momma for her foodstamps and section 8 lol? Most black men arent like that, but you wouldnt know because you extrapolate ur poor taste onto everyone else Believe me, i dont want a self loathing black woman like azealia, i just think shes a hypocrite to have a problem with black men while claiming to hate white people and white supremacy.

                  • March 30, 2015 - Reply

                    @Heather Ferreira

                    i’m not out here waving some becky around and bragging like its something to be proud of lol.

                  • March 30, 2015 - Reply

                    @Heather Ferreira

                    It sounds like you have a wonderful man, congratulations. I am happy for anyone who is being treated well. I have two daughters, and if they marry, I hope above all else, they are treated well. It sounds like your man is a person of quality. His color did not give him quality, it was probably how he was raised and his personal character. The same is true for any man or woman. If you are no longer interested in black men, as you said, you are not the property of black men, just acknowledge the simple fact that there are white men in jail as we speak for rape, spousal battery, and non-support, just like black men. Similarly, all the shelters being built in America are not mainly for sisters.

                    • March 30, 2015 - Reply

                      @Anthony

                      Very true. But brothers need to let black women who date white men live our lives, and need to step out of our business. If sisters let what black men date non-black women become our business, nothing else would ever get done. It’s a case of cast the first stone, and glass houses.

                      There seem to be a lot of men living in Plexiglas skyscrapers throwing boulders at women when those same men have done and still do a lot more of the exact same thing those men in the glass buildings are throwing the stones for. The old male double-standard: I over here, with a dick, can, Because Male –

                      But hey — hey you: yeah, yes you with the dark vagina, over there – you can’t. Or else Violence.

                      Because “Rule”.

                      It’s wrong.

                      That male double standard is the issue here and what many black women commenting here are trying to bring to light. Black male America when it comes to dating across color needs to kind of have a nice warm mug of STFU. Because when it comes to dating across colors trust us black women: as Carly Simon once sang it, NO-BODY DOESSSSSS IT BETTERRRR…

                      Not all men are misogynists and not all black men date across color, or care if black women do, or are PUA-Negro, misogynoir schmucks. Most are cool. But those who are, and those who do, have become a problem to us all. That, sir, is why we raise our banners and sing 🙂

                      And yeah, boyfriend is a little clingy but he’s cool. He knows I love him. <3

                      • March 31, 2015 - Reply

                        @Heather Ferreira

                        “But brothers need to let black women who date non-black men live our lives, and need to step out of our business.”

                        Yes, girl! In fact, they just need to step out of our business PERIOD. I’m tired as HELL of all these arrogant, self righteous, paternalistic insecure bitter Black “men” who try to police Black women and dictate how we should act, think, speak, dress, function, etc. It’s oppressive and abusive. Whether or not I want to be with someone or be alone, I am NOT obligated to explain my choices to random azz Black men. Black women are more likely to be raped, beaten, and murdered than ANY other group of women in America and they’re mostly being attacked by BLACK MEN. These misogynistic Black male trolls need to go address THAT crisis and leave us the fuck alone.

                • March 31, 2015 - Reply

                  @james

                  Women without options!? Are you serious!? GTFOOH!

                  • April 1, 2015 - Reply

                    @KissOfDanger

                    who else would bash an entire group of men? Id say the same thing about a bm that did that, no one must want him over here.

                  • April 1, 2015 - Reply

                    @KissOfDanger

                    all black women are baby mamas and only like thugs.

                    Sounds just as stupid….

              • March 30, 2015 - Reply

                @KissOfDanger

                “Waaay more quality black women…” and you can prove this how? You know every black man in this country?

              • March 31, 2015 - Reply

                @KissOfDanger

                Agreed

            • March 31, 2015 - Reply

              @_a_

              No men aren’t men. Some are more complicated than others.

              • March 31, 2015 - Reply

                @KissOfDanger

                I said that to mean that you cannot judge men based on race.All races of men have issues.

            • April 1, 2015 - Reply

              @_a_

              Men aren’t just men. Some are more problematic than others.

    • March 30, 2015 - Reply

      @_a_

      She can broaden that to MEN and make more sense. Treating others with respect is not race specific.

      • March 30, 2015 - Reply

        @mbeezy

        Thank you.

      • April 1, 2015 - Reply

        @mbeezy

        uh oh, you must be indoctrinated by the black male patriarchy lol

      • April 4, 2015 - Reply

        @mbeezy

        Do you not believe that her statements show a lack of respect for black men? Not playing the victim. What do you think.,

    • March 30, 2015 - Reply

      @_a_

      72% of black babies are born to single mothers.

      She has a point. And if you still dont believe it read more statistics.

      • March 30, 2015 - Reply

        @Adriannan Nonyo

        What does that have to do with anything, and what century do you live in? In the real world, adult women can think for themselves and they maintain full reproductive rights. Try again.

        • March 30, 2015 - Reply

          @TeflonD

          That most black men aren’t marrying the women they’re having unprotected sex with?
          That black woman are aborting black babies at extremely high rate (add that onto the 72% and you’ll get over 80%).
          That black women are more likely to die alone?

          You say “isnt it the same with white people”, the answer is somewhat because they experience hardship from their men at a much much lower rate.

          What galaxy do you live in where a woman only procreate by herself?
          I look at the bottom of this article and I read “is booty worship killing black women”
          This site is a joke and people like you are prone to deflecting and ignoring, just to attack a black woman.

          • March 30, 2015 - Reply

            @Adriannan Nonyo

            What are you rambling on about? It’s pretty simple:

            (1) Unless you were raped, you CHOOSE them man you procreate with.
            (2) Women are in total control of CHOOSING whether or not to carry a pregnancy to term. In other words, no woman here in this century ever really has to have a child she does not absolutely want.

            Either you agree or you don’t. And if you you do agree, then you have no point really.

            • March 30, 2015 - Reply

              @TeflonD

              “Unless you were……”
              We’re talking about black men, statistics show most of you guys are crap compared to other races.
              Statistics show BM/WW marriages divorce at extremely high rate.
              Most BM who have kids dont marry BW, leaving their son alone to follow his footsteps, daughters to get pregnant at an early by some dope of a BM who never had a father.

              But I like how your paragraph did nothing but blame the woman for EVERYTHING, you dont realize but over 90% of the comments I saw from BM blamed the BW for ALL problems, you guys want no responsibility for anything you do like little boys. But in reality both are at fault and both are messed up because they never had fathers.
              I’m glad more BW are finding happiness in marrying white men.

              • March 30, 2015 - Reply

                @Adriannan Nonyo

                ( Poor Reading Comprehension Skills ) + ( Deflection ) + ( Immature Display of Wanton Resentment ) = Ignored.

                Have a good day.

                • March 30, 2015 - Reply

                  @TeflonD

                  “Poor reading”

                  I stopped reading at the second number listed, I could already see everything you list was blaming the black woman for your problems.

                  “Deflection”

                  You’re copying what I just said you were doing, and apparently not knowing the meaning because -you- responded to -my- post.

                  “Immature Display of Wanton Resentment”

                  I pointed out facts while you made personal attacks, now thats pretty immature.

              • March 30, 2015 - Reply

                @Adriannan Nonyo

                “We’re talking about black men, statistics show most of you guys are crap compared to other races.”…..WHY ARE THEIR WHITE FEMINISTS? LOL ARE THEY ARE ALL FIGHTING BLACK MEN? lol

              • April 4, 2015 - Reply

                @Adriannan Nonyo

                I guess you said most, so I won’t go back and forth with you. There is nothing wrong with people dating outside of their race. I do it. But I date black women too and I don’t really place an emphasis on race. The majority of black women that find guys like that only find those dudes because they are garbage as well. The decent educated black men have higher standards so they are not wrapped up in nonsense like this and instead of getting mad at comments like yours they see it as a blessing so they can know who to keep away from. I am not being disrespectful but did you have a father in your life when you were growing up? I don’t mean just some good for nothing lazy guy, a real black man? I had and still have a wonderful and very exceptional father in my life. I think when people have a good example of a decent black male in there lives growing up there will be less of these stereotypes and resent directed towards
                black men.

                • April 4, 2015 - Reply

                  @RealDude04

                  You sound pretty hurt when I pulled out facts, eh. Being hurt, in denial, and stereotypical. is exactly while the divorce rates between BM/WW is so high.

                  • April 4, 2015 - Reply

                    @Adriannan Nonyo

                    You have to choose better seriously. I’m not hurt at all. Id on’t judge black women because of comments like this. The type of black women I deal with are educated and sane and expect the same when it comes to their black men. We live in two different worlds. Good luck with that. Sorry, I’ve witnessed one of my white college friends humiliate a black women by inviting her out and telling her to piss off after he met a brazilian girl the same night. I think you need to understand that there are dudes from all races that don’t respect women. Choose better. I’d have to question you about your background because personally I don’t deal with uneducated women, nor would I deal with a woman who is not intelligent and has a degree in a challenging major to prove it. While that isn’t the ultimate gauge of someone’s intelligence, it weeds out a lot of dumb asses. Find black men that thinks like this and you will see that all black men are not what you describe. You seem really bitter and resentful. I honestly think the type of black man that you are looking for is not looking for a woman like you. Has nothing to do with race, has more to do with something that you may be lacking. I don’t know you so I can’t say for sure. But date who you want, white or black, who cares. But before you glorify dating white men ask yourself if they brought you around there family or close friends. I’ve never had this problem when I dated someone outside of my race.

          • April 1, 2015 - Reply

            @Adriannan Nonyo

            clutch actually is very supportive of ir relationships. And offering rebuke to people who have a problem with it. However, they called bs on her blanket statement of black men, so the trolls are upset…

          • April 1, 2015 - Reply

            @Adriannan Nonyo

            you could easily say that black women(again, people are not a monolith) dont marry the men who they have sex with and become pregnant by right? see how that responsibility door swings both ways? But this convo isnt about pregnancy or single moms, thats just deflection like “what about black on black crime” during a police brutality discussion.

      • March 30, 2015 - Reply

        @Adriannan Nonyo

        Fathered and abandoned by whom? The Easter Bunny?

        “Jody”? 🙂

        We need to ask these critical men, so who is it who lies to, exploits the loneliness of, impregnates, then tosses these women to raise their children alone. Stay on them, Adriannan. Good statistic.

        • March 31, 2015 - Reply

          @Heather Ferreira

          Interesting how this is panning out.

        • April 1, 2015 - Reply

          @Heather Ferreira

          single motherhood has nothing to do with most black men or women since most black adults arent parents and dating and parenting are two dif things……but it takes two to tango, so two adults are accountable for the environment they bring kids into. You have SOME men and women who have multiple children thru multiple relationships, theres a common denominator in that.

          • April 4, 2015 - Reply

            @james

            I agree, and as a black man, I still haven’t come to terms with this concept of having kids without being married. People need to stop putting the blame completely on black men.

      • March 30, 2015 - Reply

        @Adriannan Nonyo

        It takes two to make a baby. The women are partly (sometimes mostly) at fault for their predicament. No one forces people to have kids with uncommitted, worthless men.

        • March 30, 2015 - Reply

          @_a_

          Thats what happens when theres no fathers in the house, theres a high percentage of men thats worthless. Proving what I said.

          • March 31, 2015 - Reply

            @Adriannan Nonyo

            My point is that no one forces these women to deal with these worthless men. Women have helped to create that 72% statistic

            • March 31, 2015 - Reply

              @_a_

              Maybe a huge gigantic large percentage of BW who choose crappy men because theres a large gigantic percentage of crappy men to begin with?

              You guys keep responding to me like women procreated by themselves.

              • March 31, 2015 - Reply

                @Adriannan Nonyo

                Ok so have a baby with someone that you KNOW is crappy? No excuse you come up with cuts it.Im sorry

                • March 31, 2015 - Reply

                  @_a_

                  This is getting real tedious and now you’re reaching. I’m pretty sure most of these women didnt know most of these black men were crap.

                  • March 31, 2015 - Reply

                    @Adriannan Nonyo

                    I doubt it, but we’ll agree to disagree.

                  • March 31, 2015 - Reply

                    @Adriannan Nonyo

                    Maybe some of these Black women are scared to even think of Black men in general as crappy because they know they will get attacked if they ever let that slip out around other Blacks just the way Azealia is getting attacked here for stating the truth about her experiences. The evidence shows that most of the men ARE crappy. How else could Blacks have such a high fatherlessness rate? The only other way this could happen is if most of the OOW children throughout the whole country are being fathered by the same tiny number of Black men who are crappy. Maybe it’s just a small set of crappy Black men who roam around impregnating Black women in all 50 states. 🙂

                  • April 1, 2015 - Reply

                    @Adriannan Nonyo

                    Do you really believe that? After a certain age and experiences comes wisdom (right? ). Many people are in the same situation multiple times over. ..at some point one has to examine oneself.

                    • April 1, 2015 - Reply

                      @KnottyNatural

                      “After a certain age and experiences comes wisdom”

                      You’re missing the point. It’s 2x higher for a woman to have a child/ren oow if she didnt have a father. Considering that a lot of black homes weren’t like mines it would seem like im arguing with lost causes.

                      • April 1, 2015 - Reply

                        @Adriannan Nonyo

                        You picked out one part of my statement, please address the part about multiple offenders. I guess I get the psychology behind why people who grow up without a father in the home may not believe a father is necessary but if it takes two to make a baby, it will take two (or more) to raise one. Personal and sexual responsibility are a sign of maturity. Not only that but how many children do you need to have, whilst in an unstable situation(s) did it take to realize you need to do something different?

                        • April 1, 2015 - Reply

                          @KnottyNatural

                          I did address it, you need to reread. And it doesnt matter what you personally believe, the actual facts (statistics) says the consequences are there and they’re in your face.

                          • April 1, 2015 - Reply

                            @Adriannan Nonyo

                            Common sense isn’t too common, apparently.

                      • April 1, 2015 - Reply

                        @Adriannan Nonyo

                        Nonyo, I get what you are saying, I date outside my race because it is very difficult to find responsible black men …they are around but it’s slim pickings..but fortunately I only need one. Unfortunately a lot of our men are unfairly and disproportionately inprisoned…a lot are the walking dead due to the psychological war on their minds and ours as well which leads to thinking that we should exclusively seek outside ourselves. Women do have to take half the responsibility, of course there are exceptions….Black women are having babies without commitment, if a man marries you, it’s not easy to just get up and disappear on your family. Black mothers are not raising their boys to be responsible, they spoil them and black women spoil their men, we let them do what they want without accountability and get mad when shizz gets real. Black women need to require marriage before becoming pregnant…that will solve most of our issues. I date outside my race but I don’t do it exclusively, when I marry I prefer for him to be black because I personally feel more comfortable with someone like me, I need the same energy and honestly other men don’t give me that. I will wait for my King. BTW, paternally I come from a Caribbean background where the culture is different ..all my aunts and my grandmother are ALL married. My Caribbean grandparents were married 70 yrs!! My granny on the American side was never married but had 7 children..all my aunts except one was never married on this side, my mother married my father but my american side seems to keep popping out children with no commitment …the cousins and are single mothers struggling while the Caribbean cousins are all married, the ones with children. We just have to shift our energy and start committing to one another here in the states. Stay blessed.

                        • April 1, 2015 - Reply

                          @Had2Respond

                          Okay, using other races as a crutch is not cool some of those guys could be really good guys worth marrying toying with peoples feelings and then wanting to leave them for the next black man leaves a very bad impression of black women on them. Then you say something about a lot of black men are unfairly imprisoned? No, a lot of those men are guilty as sin and quite a few of them are multiple offenders doing horrific crimes like beating their girlfriend and eventually to death, and then you got plenty of black families that has had somebody in their family murdered, these are REAL people. And to say its not is unnecessary babying and is really disrespectful. Now to marriage, oddly enough marriage between a BW/WW has the lowest divorce rates across the charts, people can share much more things in common than just skin color… Like honesty, love, and respect. I’ve read that black women waiting decades on a BM, their eggs dried up and he still doesnt want to commit, heres a hint, DONT WAIT. In black culture its actually normal for 20 year olds to pop out kids, unmarried, and if a man shows me he cannot even do the most typical thing that other races do all the time I am -not- waiting, he is not respecting me or my time.

                      • April 2, 2015 - Reply

                        @Adriannan Nonyo

                        No, I get your point, we’ll just have to agree to disagree on your point. If these “date-able” black women do choose black men, they should vet them and choose quality black men (they do exist, granted there are other factors such as attraction, chemistry, shared values, etc). If you’re saying that most of them settle due to their “mental and emotional damage for the lack of fathers and strong families” why wouldn’t this mental and emotional damage extend to relationships they’d have w/ men of other races?? And who’s to say they’d pick good men of other races or have successful relationships with them? I’m all for living and let living, dating who you want based on love, not race, but you’re giving men of other races too much credit; they are no better then black men. People are hurting for a lot of reasons, why bring a child into your BS? Most children these days aren’t planned, OOW or not. No one cares too much about women having babies who can afford them (white women are doing this as well, and specifically saying they don’t want the father to participate) and/or are co-parenting successfully with the fathers of these children. I stand by what I said and what @_a_ said; women are powerful creatures in charge of their own bodies. I don’t think it’s too much to ask women to vet the men we decide to share our bodies with, or make a decision that the man we share our bodies with isn’t fit to father a child. It’s simple really. Having babies is human biology, and totally painlessly preventable.

                        • April 2, 2015 - Reply

                          @KnottyNatural

                          “I don’t think it’s too much to ask women to vet the men we decide to
                          share our bodies with, or make a decision that the man we share our
                          bodies with isn’t fit to father a child. It’s simple really. Having
                          babies is human biology, and totally painlessly preventable.”<—no the solution is just date white men, because all white men are quality men and will never do anything negative lol.

                          • April 3, 2015 - Reply

                            @james

                            Unfortunately some women consider dating white, (specifically) a panacea; many white women would beg to differ.

                            • April 3, 2015 - Reply

                              @KnottyNatural

                              Exactly! men are men. Some are quality people as far as dating, some are not. Same with women. Instead of people getting introspective and questioning the type of people they entertain, they get bitter and then lambaste all black men or women.

                              • April 6, 2015

                                @james

                                It’s really sad, right?

            • March 31, 2015 - Reply

              @_a_

              I think many woman fall for the same crap ..black men who pretend to want something then flip the script. .every ..and I mean every black woman I know was in an actual relationship whith their child’s father before things went left…and almost no of these men tske care of their children once they left the mother. Even my father abandoned me and my siblings. …this is truth. ..black men have to raise their children. .no more excuses.

              • March 31, 2015 - Reply

                @danybx

                Im not saying that there is an excuse for the men. I am just saying that the women are half to blame as well. Some ppl on here are making it seem like these women are poor , defenseless, and had absolutely no way of avoiding their predicament.

                • April 2, 2015 - Reply

                  @_a_

                  No I here you ….I knew at 17 thst I wasnt going to have a baby with an american man.. and I grew up disfunctional and from the projects…one thing I knew for certain was that I was going to be a single mother. I hate to say that because I love black men but I had no positive examples to emulate , no examples of black familes happy and together .what I saw were black woman left to raise children alone and men making babies and breaking hearts…

              • April 2, 2015 - Reply

                @danybx

                They cant hear you.
                As for me, I never had a vetting process because I thought i had a really good judge of character. I was not ready for what happened next. A lot of us come from dysfunctional homes and it takes a long time to find out exactly how dysfunctional. I thought I had my soulmate. Nobody could tell me otherwise. SMH.

            • April 1, 2015 - Reply

              @_a_

              And as for me and mine. ..No wedding, no womb…I have a serious vetting process for anyone I date. Do I think marriage is a panacea for OOW children or being with a loser, no. But if I choose to procreate at all it’ll be with a man who had similar values as i do, and that includes family values, should we CHOOSE to have one.

              • April 1, 2015 - Reply

                @KnottyNatural

                Thank you!!! I’m not sure why ppl are acting as if women are poor, helpless creatures who can’t use logic or reasoning to make good decisions.if someone dosent decide to vet those that they date (like u do) then that’s on them.

              • April 2, 2015 - Reply

                @KnottyNatural

                MAKE SURE YOU KNOW AS MUCH AS HE WILL REVEAL ABOUT HIS PARENT’S MARRIAGE. NOT JUST CHILDHOOD ISH. PRY GIRL, PRY! Cause parents lie to hide ish too. Moms feel guilt bc they know they fxcked up.

                • April 2, 2015 - Reply

                  @Love.tweet.joi

                  I won’t penalize someone for their parents’ marriage. I do believe it affects us in certain ways but I also know that we create the life we want. I come from a 2 love-less parent household. I shared some things with an ex, who shared them with his mother (who never liked me) and eventually she told him after a situation with us, “What did you expect, she comes from a dysfunctional family”. This is a woman on her second marriage, who calls her current hubby ‘roommate’, but she feels the need to judge my background. SMH…But overall I feel it takes time to get to know someone…as a man told me, most people send their representative when you first meet them. Stick around long enough and you’ll see who they are.

        • March 31, 2015 - Reply

          @_a_

          Hence the abortion rate…we can go arounf in circles. ..bottomline..its all bad…black woman need to be more discerning about who they have unprotected sx with and black men need to grow up and take responsibility for the children they made while also having un protected sex..

        • March 31, 2015 - Reply

          @_a_

          It’s not like black women do know where the abortion clinics are. But to still have all these kids out of wedlock makes absolutely no sense. At this point, they’re having children on personal choices

      • April 4, 2015 - Reply

        @Adriannan Nonyo

        Poor decisions when choosing mates. There has to be some aspect of self accountability on the woman’s part. Last time I checked if a man forces himself on a woman it’s considered rape. Some women just need to keep their legs closed and choose better.

        • April 4, 2015 - Reply

          @RealDude04

          Theres a heck of a lot of crappy mates, in a matter of fact, majority.

          • April 4, 2015 - Reply

            @Adriannan Nonyo

            Do you truly believe that? You need to broaden you horizons, all jokes aside. But like I said, I date outside of my face but I don’t see it as some sort of merit badge. As far as calling people crappy, that’s completely subjective. Yep, black hood dudes are garbage, but at the same time, you really have to choose better, or be desirable to the decent black men. Don’t worry, Not being disrespectful. Anyway have a happy easter weekend.

            • April 4, 2015 - Reply

              @RealDude04

              Abandoning your own wife and kid makes them the definition of crap… Of all cultures… But apparently not the culture that does it at large.

      • April 5, 2015 - Reply

        @Adriannan Nonyo

        Don’t the women have a say. Maybe they should be more selective in who they sleep with.

        • April 5, 2015 - Reply

          @Jane

          My point is black men arent taking care of their kids. its kind of hard to have a say with 7/10 apples are bad.

          • April 6, 2015 - Reply

            @Adriannan Nonyo

            So all the women were happily married and the husband just walked out. These men were all so perfect at the beginning.

    • April 5, 2015 - Reply

      @_a_

      plenty of times. I remember a youtuber talking about how a white man defended her natural hair and she didn’t even know him. As a whole usually black women and white men don’t seem to have any sort of issues.

      • April 5, 2015 - Reply

        @alasia min

        LOL!!! You can’t take a few examples of white men being, “nice”, to prove that white men are supportive of black women. The way that this country (the world really) runs is proof enough that on average white men could give two sh*ts about blacks women (or black people).

        • May 21, 2015 - Reply

          @_a_

          the world doesn’t care about black people? Well you could go further and say the people only care about their own ethnic/phenotype group. But it depends on the individual. And the way this country runs is proof enough that on average white men could give two shits about black women? You’re gonna have to give very specific examples for a generalization of a wide group of humans. How do you think a white man with a black wife feels reading this statement? Give more specific reasons.

  2. March 30, 2015 - Reply

    I don’t blame her for feeling that way though with her problems its might be rare for her to find any quality man of any race.

    • March 30, 2015 - Reply

      @Anonin

      Like she would recognize a quality man if she saw one. LOL. HA! Reminds me of when Chili was on that reality show looking for a man. It’s like shopping at the mall for a gift and you don’t know what you came there to buy.

      • March 30, 2015 - Reply

        @Love.tweet.joi

        I remember how my mom said she respected chili less after seeing the TLC movie. She was always my least favorite member.

        • March 30, 2015 - Reply

          @Anonin

          I couldnt see past her beauty for a long time.

          • March 30, 2015 - Reply

            @Love.tweet.joi

            She’s not that bad but im more of a left eye person (her eyes were gorgeous) its chilis hair what most are attracted to like Tatyanna Ali because they both don’t have the light skin appeal.

            • March 30, 2015 - Reply

              @Anonin

              She was fit too! But yeah, mainly it was the “indian hair” LOL.

    • March 30, 2015 - Reply

      @Anonin

      Basically. Azaelia is nuttier than a fruitcake and it’d be best for a man of any race to steer clear of her brand of cray.

  3. March 30, 2015 - Reply

    This chick is hella confused. I’ve written her off long time ago. One moment she wants to take a pseudo pro-black stance when it comes to black culture only to turn around champion the very group of men that are being culture vultures. Make up your damn mind Banks. Yes there are some black men that are on some next level of foolishness and are willing, hollow-headed tools in promoting the notion of black female inferiority. But last I checked it is white males/Jews that control the very media that they have no issue degrading us with. Don’t get it twisted.

  4. March 30, 2015 - Reply

    I wonder if some of Clutch’s writers have reading comprehension problems, or if they are just slick.

    “keep your asinine reasons and self-hate to yourself.”

    She was asked a specific question about her dating choices, and she replied back. What is “self hate” about her remark–I didn’t hear her say she needs white males to validate her or anything of that nature. And it’s not as if she made these comments unsolicited. Plus–how many Black men online are asking Black male rappers why they don’t date Black women? I like Azealia’s music and think she is very smart and talented, and I also think she does have a lot issues talked about previously. And yeah dating only old white males is icky as hell to me, but how about inquiring minds not worry about who she sleeps with, unless they are also asking Black guys the same in an open forum.

    • March 30, 2015 - Reply

      @vintage3000

      I never heard anything about white guys however the last gif on the article made me go hmm. Clutch never seemed to cheer for Banks at all not you were rooting for her? Puh-leeze. She could be dating a billionaire from Singapore for all we know. The world isn’t black or white.

      • March 30, 2015 - Reply

        @KissOfDanger

        I know–that gif is implying there was this girl empowerment movement behind Banks, and all the articles I have seen about her on this site only talk about how crazy she is-lol.

      • March 30, 2015 - Reply

        @KissOfDanger

        Thank you.

  5. March 30, 2015 - Reply

    so tf what. whoopdie doo she doesn’t date black men. idk why people who date out always feel the need to explain themselves/motives. you date out for 1 thing and 1 thing only, because you want to. nobody needs an explanation, book, paragraph, essay, tweet or lecture on it. idk why yall be so loud and proud to shout to the world that you f*ck other races and the reason for it. like stfuuuuuuuuuu! im sick of it on both ends male or female SHUT THE F*CK UP fool

    • March 30, 2015 - Reply

      @disqus_6sinns1216

      I agree with you.

    • March 30, 2015 - Reply

      @disqus_6sinns1216

      I think she is trying to be like Eve when she grows up. Can’t do that if White men assume that you aren’t interested. She’s probably trying to get the white men’s attention. Talking bad about black men in mixed company especially, was intended as a personal attack to prove her loyalty.

  6. March 30, 2015 - Reply

    I just wish for once a black person would say I date whites because I like whites. Anything else is BS. To be clear, anyone might be attracted to someone outside of their group, but when you decide to focus outside of your group, it is clear that you have now stated a preference. I have said as much to black guys who come up with reasons why they date white women.

    • March 30, 2015 - Reply

      @Anthony

      So…I was on here bragging about my cuz and her white husband. How long they had been together, how it was true love. Anyway, this girl got to Vegas and pretty much told these black guys in the club that she didn’t date them because they didn’t like her in elementary school. Mind you, she’s got a white girl body. Still, I never knew the resentment she had toward black men until that night. Some black men date white girls for the same reasons. They rarely say, “I just like white people” or “I just think they are more attractive.” It usually goes back to something that black people did to them growing up.

      • March 30, 2015 - Reply

        @Love.tweet.joi

        To me, marrying someone else because you feel rejected is sad. Heck, as a heavy dark skinned brother with a small, kinky afro, I felt unwanted a lot back in the Seventies and Eighties when so many sisters (it seemed like all of the cute ones) wanted some guy who looked like DeBarge or Prince. I remember being in a dorm room where two girls mocked the dark, nappy haired in dude in Switch like I wasn’t even in the room!

        Despite that hurt, I only dated women to whom I was actually attracted. I never got with anyone because I felt someone else did not want me. I still believe that resentment aside. Folks date and marry people to whom they are genuinely attracted.

        • March 30, 2015 - Reply

          @Anthony

          I so agree Anthony about dating someone who you are genuinely attracted to. But, what I have seen with some of my close male friends is that all that rejection leads to them changing there taste.

          A friend has just been rejected one time to many until he pretty much has lost the attraction for black woman that he would have climbed a mountain for so many years earlier.

          To me that is just sad and honestly pathetic.

          • March 30, 2015 - Reply

            @Brad

            The odd thing about that is every race of people of both genders experience rejection, but POC are usually the ones who will often use this as an excuse for changing their racial preferences for dating. You don’t hear of white dudes who were considered unattractive in high school, and rejected by the blonde cheerleader, etc. is only NOW attracted to non-White women as a result. Dude becomes successful and still marries a white woman.

            • March 30, 2015 - Reply

              @vintage3000

              A million thumbs up for that point!

            • March 30, 2015 - Reply

              @vintage3000

              True. Your average successful white man wants to maintain his white lineage and have his children participate as members of a powerful community. By default no other woman can give that to him. Men that are concerned with power collectively marry their own.

              • March 30, 2015 - Reply

                @Ms. Vee

                They also don’t want that fight. Why would anyone who is experiencing privilege choose to give that up to experience disadvantage? I know a White man that loses his job every time he introduces his boss to his Black wife. He’s becoming angry and frustrated because he thought he was above “these types” of problems.

                • March 30, 2015 - Reply

                  @Love.tweet.joi

                  Of course. The average white man is not trying to risk being ostracized let alone have that happen to his children. Especially if he comes from wealth. Sadly though black men and women love picking the trash of other groups and elevating them to prize status (and no this does not apply to every interracial relationship…so no one come at me with that crap).

                • March 30, 2015 - Reply

                  @Love.tweet.joi

                  Wow… ok, black men believe some very 1931-seeming things about “how white men feel and what white men would want”. You seem to think all white men have it in for you. That’s not true.

                  I’m not sure whether to feel sad and just leave this site (which I really should), or text white bf, send him the link, and let HIM get on you and start correcting you because dating a black woman, this is a soapbox topic of his.

                  Guys: White dudes are not eugenics scientists carefully preserving the pinkness and purity of their holy seed to perpetuate “The Mighty Teutonic Race, 88, Sieg Heil”.

                  That’s a caricature and stereotype of Caucasian men and an offensive, racist and false one.

                  White men are only men, just like you are, and become attracted to women regardless of color based on butts, boobs, legs, faces, personality and vibe, just like you do. Mine became attracted to me, he says, for my “strength”, because I have “such small and beautiful hands” which he loves to press up his own palm against then look at with such a soft smile, and “the powerful beauty and strength of the black woman against such incredible sexism and racism: that’s just amazing to me,” he says.

                  Dating me has taught him a lot, he says, about how much opposition and institutionalized oppression black women today face in America. He says “it’s opened his eyes.” He also says should I dump him his next girlfriend will also be “African-American. I find because of you I just have an attraction to black women now.”

                  Does this guy sound anxious to protect some eugenics-nightmare 1930’s pulp novel “pure white seed” to you? Cmaan: he wants us to make cute cafe au lait children! Am I a racist then, for continually saying not now, I don’t want a baby to transform my body, honey, lol?

                  What I’m reading from black men here is an enormous amount of persecution complex and self-hatred. This is stunning especially in fellows who are mostly young and didn’t even see any of the Jim Crow era: which I did, at its very end.

                  As I leave this site in a lot of sadness, my final questions to you fellows start with… if white men are this powerful and so racist… why are you out dating white women and um… well… still alive?

                  Why has this mythological Evil All Powerful White Man in charge of everything and in such big numbers not gotten finally sick of you guys “raping” their “good white women” and by now risen up in a nationwide sweeping Rosewood style pogrom that frankly Emmett Tills each and every one of you reducing your numbers to Native American reservation single digit figures, to “protect that white seed”? Wouldn’t one imagine they would have by now, if they were the least bit concerned about that busy BBC?

                  You can’t believe a fallacy without also accepting the context that’s around it, so it’s curious to me your racist, dated and false depiction of the white male thought process is ok and exists when it comes to criticizing black women who will date white guys, but suddenly not ok and suddenly DOESN’T exist when it comes to you dating these men’s women.

                  In other words, why is it all white men put on Klan hoods and robes when it comes to whether we black women could be even desirable to them (which I notice you all dismiss as strictly impossible, “because” and then you list all the things black men hate about us but white men neither notice nor dislike, but often like – such as our non-European, non-silky hair – white men LOVE it), but then these same white men living in your heads mysteriously take those hoods off and look the other way ignoring you having aggressive sex with their white women.

                  Historically, you’ll find the opposite is true. White males have been sleeping with us for centuries, and not always in the rape context you guys will insist – sometimes it was consensual; get your DNA checked and meet some 7th cousins because of it and see what you learn, lol – and a black woman/white man sex tryst has never once caused a murder or a whole black U.S. town to be burned down.

                  However, black man/white woman as a pairing has.

                  So where did all these imaginary racist white men in y’all’s minds suddenly vanish to back in the Sixties when very dark Quincy Jones was out there extremely famous having giddy blonde sex with the ABSOLUTELY DAMNED SKINNY AND BEAUTIFUL PEGGY LIPTON?

                  Where have they been ever since while many African-American entertainers from then since have gotten to do what Sam Cooke got shot for, and bragging about it?

                  Oh wait, that’s right. Waiting for black women to of course approach them instead of the other way around, them approaching us – because lol, we’re ugly and coarse and nappy, right brothers? That’d never happen… NOW, according to you, the hoods should come on.

                  And that’s the thing, fellas: you’re angry at us and want white men to reject us publicly, so that will neg us and knock us down a few pegs, back into “a black woman’s place”, where we can be concubine, barefoot and pregnant with your seventh out of wedlock kid, consenting with a smile and with dinner ready to serve to you and lighter-skinned or preferably white Number One Wife, to borrow a term from a few Asian ancestors.

                  You guys would love that. Black women publicly shamed and knocked down a peg. Why then, things would go right back to the comfortable-for-black-American-men way they used to be. When sistas knew they place. And you could Jody them. Humiliate us. And use us at will and we had no place to go and no better man to run to.

                  Naaah. 🙂

                  Those days are as over as Dixie, brothers. Who appears to want the old days of cotton back more, I wonder, here? White men, as they stand accused by all of you?

                  Or you?

                  • March 30, 2015 - Reply

                    @Heather Ferreira

                    Sleeping with black women never provoked violence because white could leave those light brown babies across the tracks or in the slave shacks while leaving their white wives and children their inheritance. Sure, some educated their kids (that’s how Wilberforce started,) and some left their families of color some property and money. That is why so many fair skinned families in South were often the most well off in the black community. Still, the great bulk of their wealth stayed in white hands no matter how much they enjoyed the company and bodies of black women.

                    A black sleeping with a white woman, especially after slavery ended had the potential to get into white families pockets, and it was fought tooth and nail. To this day, I suspect it is still rare for a white woman married to a black man to get much in the way of family inheritance.

                    Sam Cooke was shot in a hotel after he came downstairs, irate after a prostitue stole his money. Not that it matters, but I think the desk clerk that shot him, may have been a sister. If I am wrong, please correct me.

                    • March 30, 2015 - Reply

                      @Anthony

                      “To this day, I suspect it is still rare for a white woman married to a black man to get much in the way of family inheritance.”

                      Don’t feel too bad for white women who marry Black male NFL players and other Black male athletes, actors, singers, and other rich Black men. Those white wives and their families are going to inherit a lot from those Black men upon their demise.

                      • March 30, 2015 - Reply

                        @Beroa

                        You are certainly right. By and large white women who come from old money very rarely marry a black man. For that matter, more than few black women who marry super rich white men are past child bearing when they marry those men. White folks have a way of keeping that money in the tribe. We are ones falling over backwards, giving white folks are money.

                        • March 30, 2015 - Reply

                          @Anthony

                          Anthony, let’s be honest. The white husband doesn’t have to be SUPER rich. There aren’t many SUPER rich people of any group in the world. Why’d you have to go there? He can just be doing well financially, or have wealth, and a typical Black woman is in a heck of a lot better shape than if she marries a typical Black man. Just being honest. Lots of white men know they’re supposed to try to achieve and have something for a woman and family. They don’t expect for a woman to carry them. If Black men really want to have this conversation, we can go there. We all know the stats on Black men’s college graduation rates, owning businesses.

                          No one is forcing wealthy or rich Black men to trample young, fertile Black women to get to any kind of white woman to give her and her family their wealth.

                          • March 31, 2015 - Reply

                            @Beroa

                            I made that point because it reflects what I have observed. Of course, the average white man is better off financially than the average black man. Whites in general are better off than blacks. The historical and social reasons for this are common knowledge.

                    • March 31, 2015 - Reply

                      @Anthony

                      Sam Cooke was a drunk and violent with women. Lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas.

                      • March 31, 2015 - Reply

                        @BillipPhailey

                        I did not speak on his character, and honestly don’t know how he got into this conversation. I just knew he was not killed by a white woman or over a white woman. I believe the woman who killed him was never charged with a crime.

                        • March 31, 2015 - Reply

                          @Anthony

                          He was drunk, naked and came after her. That’s why she wasn’t charged.

            • March 30, 2015 - Reply

              @vintage3000

              My successful white boyfriend didn’t.

              He wants to marry ME.

              Explain this.

              • March 31, 2015 - Reply

                @Heather Ferreira

                Here is your cookie, chick.

            • March 31, 2015 - Reply

              @vintage3000

              They date Asian women actually.

          • March 30, 2015 - Reply

            @Brad

            Loses attraction for women who don’t want him makes sense. My point is that folks who say black men/women don’t want them, actually mean that the black men/women I WANT don’t want me. Instead of condemning the race, those folks really need to check out a different set of black men/women.

            • March 30, 2015 - Reply

              @Anthony

              Yeap but, he didn’t really want to put in the work and adjust himself or get out of his comfort zone and step to more black woman.

              Just ended up taking the hot mess he is now stuck with. Trying to bend logic and say that maybe this is what works for him.

      • March 30, 2015 - Reply

        @Love.tweet.joi

        “They rarely say, “I just like white people” or “I just think they are
        more attractive.” It usually goes back to something that black people
        did to them growing up.” and thats why its self hate.

    • March 30, 2015 - Reply

      @Anthony

      exactly. Why you gotta put us down and hold white people up? How do you diss the male gender of ur race as a whole, while fake claiming being pro black lol?

      • March 30, 2015 - Reply

        @james

        I think it is weak when a black person that. What makes sisters made is that black men do it too, but most of us don’t call them out when do,

      • March 30, 2015 - Reply

        @james

        This is a question you need to ask your own gender and race, and target it especially to the rap profession. For your first topic, please watch Tyler The Creator’s music video where he slaps a black woman out of frame and when she comes back up, she is Asian, not black, with long flowing hair, and therefore, “more appealing”.

        Then ask Sir Mix-A-Lot why he allowed Jennifer Lopez’s people to pay him to announce that more than two decades after it being about black women, “Baby Got Back” was actually about a Latina: her. When the single came out before she was even known >.>

        Then go out and ask your buddies why the lighter she is the better she is, the longer and glossier her locks the more desirable she is (however, points subtracted if that hair is a weeve; therefore she is damned if she doesn’t and damned if she does), and if she’s biracial – what you brothers call “high yella” or a “redbone”, watch out, all bets are off – you will shoot, murder and KILL to be the one to impregnate her.

        Answer those questions first. Then come ask us yours.

        • March 30, 2015 - Reply

          @Heather Ferreira

          “Then go out and ask your buddies why the lighter she is the better”

          I’ll answer this. Everybody including black men and women have been socialized to be anti-black and colorist for centuries. All of this stems back to slavery & colonialism idc what anybody says, and has raped and will continue to rape the minds of black people that live in white imperialist parts of the world forever.

          The brainwashing starts from when we start to learn the white man’s language as children. What are we socialized to categorize in the black and white binaries? Think about it.

          Think of what in english language is synonymous with black and dark, then in contrast to white and light.

          Then understand that we categorize actual humans in this binary.

          To decolonize the mind from the jig of these juxtapositions, one must do a lot of reading and observation. I always say the key to decolonizing the mind is to take time to seriously educate yourself about colonialism. It truly IS the root of all of these things.

        • March 30, 2015 - Reply

          @Heather Ferreira

          yeah..black people, men or women, who disparage their own race are sell outs. You keep bragging about celebrities who date black women while this system oppresses our people. You have fun. Its funny how white men love black women so much but that never stopped slavery, segregation or instutional racism lol.

          • March 30, 2015 - Reply

            @james

            “Its funny how white men love black women so much but that never stopped slavery, segregation or instutional racism”

            You left out the part about how Black men are supposed to love Black women so much but never stopped their sexist acts against us or the misogynoir that comes most painfully from other Black men. Why don’t more Black men PROTECT Black women from other Black men?

            • March 30, 2015 - Reply

              @Beroa

              They are. They might not be on television or have the platform to do it. But to suggest black men arent protecting black women because SOME black men abuse black women is dubious at best. On top of that, you are suggesting white men treat black women better. Intra -racial violence is the most common form of violence. Somewhere, a white woman is being beaten by a white man. That doesnt mean white men as a whole, a monolith, abuse women or that black men treat white women better because less white women are abused by black men than white men. Against, all forms of violence are more common among members of the same race. With that said, i love my mother, my wife, my daughters and my sons. So i dont abuse them nor do any of the men i associate with and know do that. Maybe ur experience is different. I think its sad if you believe black men abuse women more often than they dont. Most men think abuse is wrong, the ones that dont abuse women.

            • March 30, 2015 - Reply

              @Beroa

              if we want to, as black people, have a dialogue about sexism, violence etc etc lets do that. Disrespecting each other in media? thats wack. I dont get down like that, nor do brothers or sisters that care about their communities do that. Some of yall are so caught up on her dating choice that you dont get why both men and women are offended at what she said as the reason behind it. Explain how what she said is any different than d.l. hughleys perspective on black women?

              • March 31, 2015 - Reply

                @james

                James, I’m just saying that since ENOUGH Black men have made it clear and more make it clear everyday that since they can throw Black women under the bus and then get on the bus with their non-Black women and run over us, then some Black women see that we can’t look to Black men for anything. Other Black women never expected anything from Black men because we preferred other men from the jump.

                We only have one life to live, and we want to come home to a peaceful environment and a loving, considerate person. That’s what she said. What she said was similar to what some Black men (Wesley Snipes, OJ Simpson and others) have said about Black women and what they said was MUCH worse. Aside from the double standard, why is what she said any different? It was tame in comparison. If this thread had been about any of those guys, I do NOT believe that you men would say anything much at all. There can be no dialogue until Black men start seriously checking foul Black men.

                • March 31, 2015 - Reply

                  @Beroa

                  No, she implied a black man could NOT offer her a peaceful environment, but a white man could. Quit trying to twist what she said. Her comment is no less hateful nor generalizing than what D.l. hughley said. It is a clear double standard to be butthurt when black men are color struck buffoons but cheer her on. I’m pro black, not just pro black men or pro black men. I’m pro black people. What are you?

                  • March 31, 2015 - Reply

                    @james

                    She was talking about HER experiences! I guess women are different from men in that way but that way is very important to women. Any woman just wants a man who will love and protect her and show her that she can count on him. I do NOT believe that AZ has experienced this with Black men and then threw those Black men away just so she could get with a white man. Are you saying that if or when a white man offers a Black woman love, security, compatibility and wants to share a future with her that she should refuse so that she can MAYBE one day in the bye and bye get that from a black man?

                    • March 31, 2015 - Reply

                      @Beroa

                      NO SHE WASNT. she said black men take black women for granted. She was speaking on her opinion of black men as a whole. I cannot believe you are reading what she said and interpreting it as her saying it applies only to SOME black men. She said BLACK MEN TAKE BLACK WOMEN FOR GRANTED. Thats saying black men as a monolith, as a whole.

                    • March 31, 2015 - Reply

                      @Beroa

                      she didnt say “i happened to fall in love with a white man”. She said she dates white men because black men take black women for granted. Come on fam, shes not saying she dates who ever treats her right, she dissed black men as a whole as her reasoning for why she EXCLUSIVELY dates white men. How is that any different than these coon ass celebrity men like Taye diggs who only date white women?

                • March 31, 2015 - Reply

                  @Beroa

                  White supremacy has left a seed in alot of our brothers and sisters heads. Some of us sound worse than a white supremacist when asked how we feel about the opposite gender.

                • March 31, 2015 - Reply

                  @Beroa

                  its clear those of us who dont care about our community, are free to go be among white people and other non blacks. Run along if you dont like ur race, we dont need you, be you male or female.

                • March 31, 2015 - Reply

                  @Beroa

                  Seriously though, Black men need to heal themselves and be brutally honest with themselves for once. They ONLY seem to come out of the woodwork when they see Black women having discussions about black male privilege and misogyny in the black community, never when there are HATEFUL misogynistic black male trolls calling murdered Black women and girls out of their names, or Black male losers claiming Black women are the root cause of all harm in the Black communities.

                  Some Black men have literally made a CAREER out of PUBLICLY hating Black women, and ONLY Black women online. On IG and Twitter and on blogs and websites, they are constantly insulting black women. And instead of defending us from the COUNTLESS misogynistic black males who PUBLICLY degrade us like Tommy Sotomayor, Tariq Nasheed, SargeWilyPete, the so-called “good” brothers ONLY come out to derail and diminish black women who confront this misogyny. Tired of the hypocrisy. If they want to prove that they actually “care” about Black women, then the FIRST thing they need to do is form a campaign to take down EVERY SINGLE LAST public anti-black woman misogynist that has been operating online unimpeded for YEARS. Because these Black men that “care” so much should have done something about these hateful cretins a long time ago. Until then, they need to leave us the fuck alone. Some of us really ARE fed up with this shit.

          • March 31, 2015 - Reply

            @james

            When will the moderators come collect this misogynistic, hateful, disrespectful Black male troll. Ugh!

            • April 1, 2015 - Reply

              @mmmdot

              you might want to learn the definition of those terms, because they dont apply to anything ive said. I’m not trolling, nor being disrespectful, nor hateful of women at all. And id like you copy and paste where ive said anything hateful or the like, since you are making that claim.

              • April 1, 2015 - Reply

                @james

                You can not tell me what to do. Therefore, I will not repost any comments you have made. Do you see how that works?

                • April 1, 2015 - Reply

                  @mmmdot

                  Im sorry, does your mom know you are on here? lol I never commanded you to do anything. Im saying if you are going to accuse me of being xyz, substantiate it. Or did they not teach you not to lie in preschool yet?

                  • April 1, 2015 - Reply

                    @james

                    Does YOUR Mom know that you’re a misogynist who’s been harassing Black women for days online? Or did were you not raised to respect women in the BARN you were clearly raised in? Men assume that anything
                    they have to say about men or women is more important (and more “logical”) than what women have to say. You’re a misogynist who’s either LYING about your true nature or you’re completely detached from reality and deluded about your true nature. Either way, I don’t have to “prove” a damn thing to you. It CLEAR from you crapping all over this thread that you’re the TYPICAL misogynistic Black male troll. Stay in your lane and learn how to treat Black women as psychological, emotional, and mental equals or get lost. The end.

                    • April 1, 2015 - Reply

                      @mmmdot

                      How are you going to accuse me of something, then say its my responsibility to disprove it? YOU ARE MAKING THE CLAIM! lol geez. Get off the cross. You accuse me of being a mysogynist, i said prove it. You said you dont have to.

                      • April 1, 2015 - Reply

                        @james

                        What YOU’RE doing is acting like a psycho and misogynist that harasses women and tries police their conversations on a website for women. You also do not when your voice is unwanted and no one cares what you think.

                        • April 2, 2015 - Reply

                          @mmmdot

                          but you replied to my comment tho. You dont care, but you replied when i wasnt talking to you.

                          • April 2, 2015 - Reply

                            @james

                            Was I talking to YOU? Or was I asking the moderators to remove your misogynistic azz? Learn to read.

                    • April 1, 2015 - Reply

                      @mmmdot

                      you have done nothing but hurl sexist inflammatory remarks at me. “typical male”. Whay is a typical male? is that like a typical woman? Sexist much? seriously, refill ur prozac.

                      • April 1, 2015 - Reply

                        @james

                        I’m sure YOU know the benefits of Prozac and every other psychotropic medication FIRST HAND because you take them all yourself but I’m fine, troll. So worry about yourself because it’s PAINFULLY OBVIOUS that they are not working when you’re acting like a psychotic troll harassing women on a website for women. You also do not know when your voice is unwanted and no one cares what you think.

                    • April 1, 2015 - Reply

                      @mmmdot

                      How dare you say you will kill my mother?! you sick person! (im just going to make baseless claims against you, since thats what we do these days apparently.

                      • April 1, 2015 - Reply

                        @james

                        There you go again avoiding your truth of being an insecure, psychotic, and misogynistic Black male bigot. What makes you a bigot are the comments you have made in this thread. Your anti-black misogyny has nothing to do with me.

                • April 1, 2015 - Reply

                  @mmmdot

                  “you can not tell me what to do. Therefore, I will not repost any comments you have made. Do you see how that works?” yes i understand, you will just continue to make slanderous statements that have no basis in reality. carry on.

                  • April 1, 2015 - Reply

                    @james

                    No, I really do not have to prove any allegations I make against you.
                    It is your role as the accuser to disprove my allegations against you.
                    Do you understand how that concept works in life?

                    • April 1, 2015 - Reply

                      @mmmdot

                      …but yet you wont copy and paste. What you are doing is trolling. You’re posting multiple comments accusing me of something i havent done. Eventually the comments get pushed down and people only see you calling me a misogynist. Again, ive said nothing sexist. But you wont simply back up ur statement by posting an example.

                      • April 1, 2015 - Reply

                        @james

                        Who are you? And who made you an expert on the anti-black misogyny that is targeted at Black women? What YOU’RE doing is acting like a psycho and misogynist that harasses Black women and tries to police their conversations on a website for Black women. You have been doing it FOR DAYS…like a psycho. You cannot tell me what to do, you misogynistic troll. Therefore, I will not repost any comments you have made. Do you see how that works? You are a misogynistic bigot because of what you said in this thread. Deal.

                        • April 2, 2015 - Reply

                          @mmmdot

                          saying it over and over doesnt make it true

                          • April 2, 2015 - Reply

                            @james

                            More drivel from the misogynist.

                            • April 2, 2015 - Reply

                              @mmmdot

                              more drivel from the misandrist.

                              • April 3, 2015

                                @james

                                Typical deluded misogynistic drivel from the psycho who has been harassing women and trying to police their conversations on a website for women for DAYS now. You also do not when your voice is unwanted and no one cares what you think.

                              • April 3, 2015

                                @mmmdot

                                i havent policed anyone, i commented on a public forum. Weirdo.

                              • April 3, 2015

                                @james

                                Who are you? And who made you an expert on the anti-black misogyny that is targeted at Black women?

                              • April 3, 2015

                                @mmmdot

                                I’m not claiming to be an expert on anything, however you are attempting to present yourself as a psychic since you keep telling me what i am thinking.

                              • April 3, 2015

                                @james

                                What makes you a bigot are the comments you have made in this thread. Your anti-black misogyny has nothing to do with me.

                              • April 3, 2015

                                @mmmdot

                                If anyone is policing anyone, its you. who trolls a public board and screams for the moderators to delete comments they dont like?

                              • April 3, 2015

                                @james

                                The truth hurts your feelings. What makes you a bigot are the comments you have made in this thread. Your anti-black misogyny has nothing to do with me.

                  • April 1, 2015 - Reply

                    @james

                    You are a bigot because of what you said in this thread. No, I really do not have to prove any allegations I make against you. It is your role as the accuser to disprove my allegations against you. Do you understand how that concept works in life?

                    • April 1, 2015 - Reply

                      @mmmdot

                      ” It is your role as the accuser to disprove my allegations against you. Do you understand how that concept works in life?”<——and you are accusing me of being a bigot, i said prove it. That manspeak or mansplaining, thats called logic.

                      • April 1, 2015 - Reply

                        @james

                        What makes you a bigot are the comments you have made in this thread. Your anti-black misogyny has nothing to do with me.

    • March 30, 2015 - Reply

      @Anthony

      She really can’t just come out and say the truth (about just liking white men), because it just may contradict other (crazy) things that she has said.

    • March 30, 2015 - Reply

      @Anthony

      “I just wish for once a black person would say I date whites because I like whites. ”

      You can see in this thread why some Black women don’t just come out and say that. All AB said was that she doesn’t prefer Black men and she stated why. These are HER experiences. This brought out the axes for her head though. Meanwhile PLENTY of Black men go all deep and dirty everyday on why they don’t prefer Black women and they get hi-fived by other Black men. Black women hear this and read this every day. I have never read or seen where Black men SERIOUSLY checked a Black man for doing this. Yet, you Black men here have pulled on your ‘holier than thou’ and see-no-evil cloaks, acting like y’all never hear or read this stuff when Black men do it, as if Black women are just imagining it. Gaslighting FAIL.

      • March 30, 2015 - Reply

        @Beroa

        I have always called out black guys who dog black women when I hear it. I admit that I don’t hang out on forums where black men dog black women.

      • April 2, 2015 - Reply

        @Beroa

        YES!!!

  7. March 30, 2015 - Reply

    I just can’t with her…

    **Adding Azealia Banks to my all skinfolk ain’t kinfolk list**

  8. March 30, 2015 - Reply

    I keep giving her chances and she keeps burning them up. #thatssoRaven

    • March 30, 2015 - Reply

      @Love.tweet.joi

      ‘#thatssoRaven’

      Ha!

    • March 30, 2015 - Reply

      @Love.tweet.joi

      Good for her: then she’s the black Madonna! Consider me her new fan 🙂

      The day one black woman is successfully told “that’s uncomfortable for us to hear; shut your mouth” and she does it, we’re ALL SILENCED. Do you want that? Or didn’t you get enough of that in your little dress after Sunday school from a switch? I know I did. Today I’d break that switch.

      Screw that noise and straight to hell with it. The more outspoken and less comfortable Black American Woman is, the better. Somebody’s got to keep the flag up. We’re the conscience of America. LET’S ROLL.

  9. March 30, 2015 - Reply

    Black advocated by day while being a white advocate by night.

    My own personal rule is that I don’t put much stock or give much weight or value to what you say about black issues if you are inclusively dating white. Male or female you not going to have my attention about issues of race as far as I am concerned.

    • March 30, 2015 - Reply

      @Brad

      Why in your world is it that what the voice and the mind express, the penis and vagina must also follow?

      So anyone, even if they themselves are black, has to allow a black man’s dick in their underparts and nothing else, or be silent: forever?

      How does a woman’s sexual choice, a thing that is hers, give you and your private, imaginary black female bed partner inspection committee power to say whether she can or cannot talk about her experience of being black or whether the things she will say are valid?

      You should be a Stormfronter with that sort of attitude, sir. I wish we could take a look at every single woman you’ve ever lusted after while in line somewhere or at the grocery store and line her up and show the crowd whether not one single one of them was Caucasian. Because you’re a black male so we already know the answer.

      You’re just concealing it behind a false morality to look smug and spit something hateful at women who refuse to be property for you or hand their vaginas over to you instead of men whose skin color you envy and hate but certainly like to see on their women.

      Isn’t it true, sir.

      • March 30, 2015 - Reply

        @Heather Ferreira

        That saying actually was originally related to black male e of the 60’s.

        Just thought it applied so well to her in this instance. Again your calling me out as if you have any idea at all anything about me or who I am.

        May I suggest taking a Valium or some other form of medication.

        • March 30, 2015 - Reply

          @Brad

          Ad hominem, sir, is the refuge of a poor debater, and the blinding white flag, wind-snapped, high above blood-soak’d terrain announcing he who it first inflicts, thus hath surrendered and rests in peace. 🙂

          Might I suggest greater reading/debating skills?

  10. March 30, 2015 - Reply

    To say that she has self-hate because she dates white men is ridiculous.

    Self-hate is just that. You hate who you are. That’s it.

    She might be a loud mouth and prone to saying a lot of ridiculous shit. But she has often exhibited pride in being a black woman.

    • March 30, 2015 - Reply

      @Dixie Rect

      She is black. Black men are black. When you say or suggest white men as a whole treat black women better, you are disrespecting black people, black men and the black women who raise them.

      like come on. If this was some male rapper that said this, you all would be on here feasting on his soul n shit. (rightfully so). Why you gotta diss black men as a justification for ur dating choices?

      • March 30, 2015 - Reply

        @james

        But if this were some male rapper that said this, you wouldn’t even be here making so many thirsty, woman hating comments, because you think the way they do and feel just as entitled to a rainbow of trim. 🙂

        Because trust me, there are thousands of web pages where hundreds of rappers do say exactly the above and far worse; but mysteriously, here you are here, on the Azealia page, and not theirs.

        And now why is that? 🙂

        • March 30, 2015 - Reply

          @Heather Ferreira

          and black men who disparage black women when asked why they date non black women are just as self loathing and despicable. But you didnt ask me how i felt about them did you?

        • March 30, 2015 - Reply

          @Heather Ferreira

          and show me any of my comments that were “women hating”? im criticizing her comments and attitude and ur saying im hating women? ur comments are full of anti black male vitriol and im the person doing the hating?

      • March 30, 2015 - Reply

        @james

        Just because two people share a race doesn’t mean they’re entitled to each other. Just like with white feminist. I express the same thing, just because we both have vaginas doesn’t mean you get to police me, feel entitled to me or feel you get to tell me how to live my life.

        I can use the same logic regarding gender. You can say I hate myself simply because I won’t date another woman because I’m a woman. That’s burden of proof fallacy. I was not put on this earth to be a spawning vessel for black men or anyone else.

        ” you are disrespecting black people, black men and the black women who raise them.” Wouldn’t that make my guardians/parents sick perverted f*cks up wants to sleep with me vicariously through my partner?

        What does what I do with my vagina have to do with my parents? So me not wanting to be with another woman can be seen as disrespect towards my mother,grandmother according to your logic.

        Shall we pull up those domestic violence statistics. Since BW are more then likely to be murdered, raped, and abused. And 1 out 5 times their partner is a BM. I hope you show as much enthusiasm towards BM who outright disrespect BW and say non-bw are better as you do with BW who does the gender antithesis of this situation. Otherwise I am calling your hypocritical misogynistic policing BS argument.

        • March 30, 2015 - Reply

          @BubzLife Starlight

          “I was not put on this earth to be a spawning vessel for black men or anyone else.”

          Hot damn, lady. This is beautiful. Upvoted.

        • March 30, 2015 - Reply

          @BubzLife Starlight

          Smh. No one is saying anything about entitlement but you. All these leaping projections and left field equivalences are just silly. Stick to the point.

          “1 out 5 times their partner is a BM”

          Since the vast majority of these Black women cohabit with Black men, isn’t this superficial statistic essentially worthless? Do you lot ever bother to allow common sense get in the way of your misandrist spiels? Who is culpable for the overwhelming majority of domestic abuse against Black men and Black children, if not Black women? Again, what is your point?

          “I was not put on this earth to be a spawning vessel for black men or anyone else.”

          Completely meaningless. Black men of that mindset obviously don’t have a problem finding the VERY WILLING “vessels” that constitute 73% of the Black female population. So what point are you trying to make?

          Give it a rest already.

        • March 30, 2015 - Reply

          @BubzLife Starlight

          so…lemme just make sure my black man mind can comprehend this: if you disparage ur race’s men, the race you belong to, you cannot be criticized? Because me saying what she said is fucked up, is the same as me wanting to police who she dates?

        • March 30, 2015 - Reply

          @BubzLife Starlight

          and when did mutual respect equal entitlement? you dont like black men? get in line with the police, america and the klu klux klan and the have a coke and a smile…

    • March 30, 2015 - Reply

      @Dixie Rect

      ^^^This. Thank you, Dixie!

  11. March 30, 2015 - Reply

    She can date whom she wants. I want to know what does her dating life and what she does with her vagina have to do with you or anyone else? How does HER dating choices effect you? It’s her body, this doesn’t anger me. Because wtf does this have to do with anything. If she just wants white men, oh f*cking well. Self-hate doesn’t have crap to do with who you date(which is fallacy logic to begin with).

    Who cares if she wants to date/marry white men. And? This is hurting you how?

    • March 30, 2015 - Reply

      @BubzLife Starlight

      Word. I wonder how many Black men are perturbed about Black male celebs who have adamantly voiced their dislike of Black women?

      • March 30, 2015 - Reply

        @vintage3000

        Are there actually black celebrity men out there trashing black women and not being held accountable on social media these days?

        Not saying it isn’t an issue but, with all of the voices on social media they are getting checked hard as well.

        I guess in fairness they may not be getting checked as hard by other black males but, they are getting checked for sure.

        Full disclosure I honestly don’t really even know who this woman is since I don’t really listen to hip hop.

        • March 30, 2015 - Reply

          @Brad

          That’s the thing that you have referenced here–when Kevin Hart, DL Hughley, Steve Harvey, and their ilk make outrageous comments about Black women, it’s usually only women who check them. I don’t ever recall a Black male replying to these types of remarks. The only time I can remember is Al Roker very vocally supporting the womens’ basketball team who was insulted by that old white dude–but of course DL Hughley had to follow up with his stupidity in front of a laughing white audience.

          Which is why I don’t get an article like this–why would a Black woman get offended by Azealia’s post, she has not said half the foul mess spewed by some of these males out here.

          • March 30, 2015 - Reply

            @vintage3000

            Fair enough and just now in the news, Jamie Foxx is getting racked over the coals for making a joke about Brice Jenner at the iheart radio awards.

            But, fair or not many times black woman come to the defense of black men where the opposite would not be the case. I do believe that is beginning to change.

            • March 30, 2015 - Reply

              @Brad

              Yeah I agree with him being raked over the coals–regardless of my feelings about someone changing their gender it’s just cruel to humiliate them like that.

              And re: other so called jokes, it’s amazing how the media decides who is worthy of courtesy and respect. At that Justin Bieber roast there was a joke about Selena, the Tex Mex singer who died tragically. Someone else told a joke about Paul Walker and Comedy Central decided it was in poor taste because Paul was so well loved. And apparently Selena was not-smdh.

              • March 30, 2015 - Reply

                @vintage3000

                Yeap true..

                Well I say just keep hitting them over the head when ever there are jokes and negative talk of black woman. Maybe it will start to sink in that more black men need to stick up for you.

          • March 30, 2015 - Reply

            @vintage3000

            That’s against the man code. Men don’t check men on anything and they can be wrong as hayle.

          • March 30, 2015 - Reply

            @vintage3000

            “…why would a Black woman get offended by Azealia’s post…”

            CLICK Bait — And It Worked

            • March 30, 2015 - Reply

              @RaiseTheBar

              Sadly that’s the typical mindset on most of these threads and they think they are smart, and they figure it’s something to gain by always looking for a gender fight between black men and black women which I can’t quite figure that one out please help me.

              • March 30, 2015 - Reply

                @TheBurningBush

                If Black men would stop trying to GASLIGHT Black women, and start checking Black men who spew trash about Black women or try to subject Black women to a double standard, there wouldn’t need to be any of this. Black women are just TIRED of this.

                • March 30, 2015 - Reply

                  @Beroa

                  I don’t know the meaning of the word gaslight, Sorry but I don’t get into this self sabotaging he said she said black male against black female lose lose immature non sense, sorry.

                  • March 30, 2015 - Reply

                    @TheBurningBush

                    Comes from a 1944 movie called Gaslight, starring Ingrid Bergman. A good movie.

                    • March 31, 2015 - Reply

                      @Tony

                      thank you but what does this term “gaslight” mean today?

                      • April 1, 2015 - Reply

                        @TheBurningBush

                        Charles Boyer was playing mind games with Ingrid Bergman trying to drive her insane. When someone is playing with your mind, they are gaslighting you.

                        • April 1, 2015 - Reply

                          @Tony

                          thanks!!!!!!!!

          • March 30, 2015 - Reply

            @vintage3000

            you might not remember, but that doesnt mean it didnt happen. Point is, brothers diss sisters, brothers get checked. Sisters diss brothers, its “leave her alone. She has her choices!!!”

            • March 30, 2015 - Reply

              @james

              “brothers diss sisters, brothers get checked. Sisters diss brothers”

              LOL Uh-Huh, tell me more about how BM suffer intersectional racism. Clutch is always, shaming, and policing BW. I see white feminist and everyone sticking up for a BM including BW. So don’t feed me “NO ONE CODDLES ME ENOUGH” crap. You better look up those domestic violence statistics regarding BW. And you tell me if people stick up for us.

              • March 30, 2015 - Reply

                @BubzLife Starlight

                im sorry no black man every cared about you. i feel sorry for you really. *continues to not oppress any black women*

          • March 31, 2015 - Reply

            @vintage3000

            “when Kevin Hart, DL Hughley, Steve Harvey, and their ilk make outrageous comments about Black women, it’s usually only women who check them. I don’t ever recall a Black male replying to these types of remarks.”

            THANK YOU!!!

      • March 30, 2015 - Reply

        @vintage3000

        ZERO

      • March 31, 2015 - Reply

        @vintage3000

        If this isnt a loaded question,i’ll answer.

        i’m just as offended at uncle toms who disrespect black women and state that as their reason for dating white women or non black women.

        • March 31, 2015 - Reply

          @james

          Okay, James. So that means the next time there’s an article about some ignorant Negro making disparaging remarks about BW to prop up nonblack women, you’ll go hard in the comments like you’ve done today? I’m not on here as much anymore, but I’ll be sure to look for your scathing commentary and defense of BW at that time. Don’t let me down. Lol.

          • March 31, 2015 - Reply

            @Giselle

            this is the first time ive commented on this particular site. Only because someone posted this on facebook and i clicked on it….Anyways, i dont like coons. Be they male or female of the coon variety. I love my black women and i got love for my brothers and when they are wrong, i speak on it. I dont do that gender politics shit. Its not me against you or vice versa. We are all black, any issues we have between each other need to be worked out between each other,. But bashing each other in the media? wack.

    • March 30, 2015 - Reply

      @BubzLife Starlight

      It makes no sense to be annoyed at people commented on what she says, when she chooses to post her thoughts on social media. We all know that social media is not a place where you post things with no response.

      • March 30, 2015 - Reply

        @Anthony

        BUT THAT DOES NOT MAKE YOU ENTITLED TO HER. Of course she has the right to post her thoughts. She does not become someone’s property because this is the internet. People do not post crap online to have others shame, gaslight, or humiliate them.

        • March 30, 2015 - Reply

          @BubzLife Starlight

          I never said I was entitled to any woman. I figured that out back in the 1980s.

          • March 30, 2015 - Reply

            @Anthony

            No you’re trying to justify why it’s okay to attack someone online. To me, it seems like you were aiming for “well I can she post online, which means I have a right to be abusive towards her”

            • March 30, 2015 - Reply

              @BubzLife Starlight

              There is absolutely nothing that I or Brad said that was abusive towards Azelia Banks. I simply said that I wish BLACK PEOPLE (I called no names or mentioned genders) who date white people would just say they like white people instead of criticizing black women or men. I posted that I said this face to face to young black men.

              I know that if I had married a white woman, it would have been because I loved her, and I would have had no apologies for my choice.

              • March 30, 2015 - Reply

                @Anthony

                I am going to have to google her because other than articles on clutch I have no idea who she is. Certainly not enough to be negative about her.

              • March 31, 2015 - Reply

                @Anthony

                “There is absolutely nothing that I or Brad said that was abusive towards
                Azelia Banks. I simply said that I wish BLACK PEOPLE (I called no names
                or mentioned genders) who date white people would just say they like
                white people instead of criticizing black women or men. I posted that I
                said this face to face to young black men.”

                No, you were supposed to congratulate her for putting white men on a pedestal. Because you didnt, you are a misogynist who hates black women. Even tho you’ve said nothing sexist, nor hateful

    • March 30, 2015 - Reply

      @BubzLife Starlight

      Yesss! Thank you! The level of hypocrisy and misogynoir on this site is utterly disgusting. And this is supposed to be a webzine for primarily black women??? It sure is hard to tell! So damn disappointing. SMH!

  12. March 30, 2015 - Reply

    I support her right to date whomever she wants, but I will admit she does seem to be stereotyping black men unfairly. Yes, there are black dudes who delude themselves into thinking non-black women make better girlfriends (translation: more submissive), but their ideology is cut from the same cloth as white dudes who assume the same about Asian women. It’s not so much about physical preferences than it is a patriarchal control-freak mentality, since they’re always chasing after the women they believe they can drag by the hair without complaint. Which incidentally is the mindset I associate with rapists and abusive spouses.

    I understand Ms. Banks may be put off by those guys, but somehow her counter-stereotyping seems just as fallacious.

    • March 30, 2015 - Reply

      @BrandonSPilcher

      Fair enough; this is a good comment and though I disagree with your final statement, the rest, at least to me, sir, was top notch. Good catch on the “Asian women will be submissive and therefore easier” thing.

  13. March 30, 2015 - Reply

    Who is this female again? Why is she important?

  14. March 30, 2015 - Reply

    Hypocrite.

  15. March 30, 2015 - Reply

    First, Azealia Banks has the right to her romantic
    preference. I believe in the freedom of association. Likewise, that freedom
    means that I have the right to be attracted to black people alone as well. Who
    see dates is none of my business. That’s her business. Also, it is important
    for us to reject generalizations too. Her statement is not worse than the
    misogynoir that exists against black women. Her words are not worse than what
    Internet trolls, some hip hop artists, politicians, and racists have said about
    black people. Yet, not all black men are monolithic. Many black males do act a
    fool (many black men have to stop calling any woman the B word and stop
    disrespecting any human unfairly) and take black women for granted. That is
    true, but many black men don’t take black women for granted, are honorable, and
    act as strong black men. Azealia Banks is a great lyricist and I love her
    musical talent. Men bashing is evil. Women bashing is evil.

    More men do have to
    condemn misogynoir in the world. It is certainly a white supremacist culture (headed
    by mostly white males) that has degraded both black women and black men more so
    than any other demographic in history. I
    don’t agree with her on some issues though. Life is not easy. Whether you’re at home or not, we have no choice but to fight for our human rights. Fighting for our human rights is a constant struggle. There is no freedom is stereotyping your own race of the opposite gender unfairly. There is freedom is standing up for justice and being honest about our condition.

    • March 30, 2015 - Reply

      @truthseeker2436577@yahoo.com

      Do you mean misogynist or misogyny? What you said is not an actual word.

      • March 30, 2015 - Reply

        @Anthony

        Hello Anthony,

        I mean misogynoir. Misogynoir is a real word. It means anti-black misogyny and you can Google it as well.

        • March 30, 2015 - Reply

          @truthseeker2436577@yahoo.com

          Excuse me sir.

          • March 30, 2015 - Reply

            @Anthony

            That’s fine Brother.

        • March 30, 2015 - Reply

          @truthseeker2436577@yahoo.com

          And I like that word. Consider it swiped for use by me for the rest of eternity on as many websites filled with those kinds of dudes as will be humanly possible.

          • March 30, 2015 - Reply

            @Heather Ferreira

            I think that the word is excellent word as well.

    • March 31, 2015 - Reply

      @truthseeker2436577@yahoo.com

      I am slowly but surely seeing more black men speak out against misogynoir. Not enough, but it’s way more then lets say back in 2011 or 2012 where it was rampaaaant.

      • March 31, 2015 - Reply

        @disqus_6sinns1216

        I agree with you. There is a long way to go, but many black men are speaking out against misogynoir. Years ago, there have been sites and Youtube clips galore showing the evil of misogynoir constantly. Today, an increasingly number of people are standing up for the human dignity of black women.

  16. March 30, 2015 - Reply

    When are Negroes going to learn to stop following celebrities?

    That is the sad part about this. But then again there are a lot of fake black conscious folks in real life who do the same thing.

    • March 31, 2015 - Reply

      @D1Mind

      yeah, folks are super militant on social media, but living a double life.

  17. March 30, 2015 - Reply

    What “do we think”? I agree with her. Black women are not black men’s “property” and I tend to think we owe zero loyalty to men who tossed us under the bus decades ago. I’m open to dating all races and both genders, but generally I find there’s little in common and little to discuss with today’s African-American fellow. His eye scans the horizon for my European-American equal, and that’s fine. But black men also need to realize white and Asian men can often treat us quite well, and that horizon-scanning is not only a woman’s right, but can go both ways.

    Let’s not pick on Azealia when this magazine has not once picked the same way on a list of modern black musicians, rappers, businessmen and athletes who make precisely the same choice when it comes to the women they love. She’s one black woman. Take all the numbers of black men to task who do the same and we could all be here a while –

    And lol… your servers would probably crash.

    • March 30, 2015 - Reply

      @Heather Ferreira

      Yeah. This chick stated that the reason why she exclusively dates old white dudes with money is because Black men take Black women for granted. Do you have any examples from Black men that aren’t a flagrant false equivalence to present? When exactly did Kanye say “I only date white women because Black women are such and such”? Lol. Please stay on topic.

      No one is stating that anyone is anyone’s property. To be real, there are no Black men waiting in line to get with her. The general sentiment is: Date who you date and like what you like without getting silly about it — all the while betraying your resentment.

      “His eye scans the horizon for my European-American equal.”

      Whose eye? >90% of Black men who chose to marry, marry Black women. That’s statistics for “it ain’t them; it’s most probably you.”

      • March 30, 2015 - Reply

        @TeflonD

        “To be real, there are no Black men waiting in line to get with her.”

        You appear to be here outdoors with your place in line; otherwise we wouldn’t all be here reading your comment, now would we then? 🙂

        • March 30, 2015 - Reply

          @Heather Ferreira

          Nice dodge, Miss.

          But show me the line, please. Stacey Dash dates non-Black guys. I know plenty Black men who think she’s hot. I know a sum total of zero Black men who are all over this chick. Like someone said above, you can always tell when people are embittered because they were essentially relegated to less desirable options.

          Like I said, quality Black women have no problem finding quality Black men. You clearly have no point to make. >90% of Black men who chose to marry, marry Black women. That’s statistics for “it ain’t them; it’s most probably you.”

          • March 30, 2015 - Reply

            @TeflonD

            “Stacey Dash dates non-Black guys. I know plenty Black men who think she’s hot. I know a sum total of zero Black men who are all over this chick.”

            Stacey Dash has a more European phenotype, so since plenty of Black men are colorstruck, it’s no surprise that plenty of them find her hot. That’s just more evidence of Black men throwing African phenotype women under the bus. Just because plenty of Black men don’t think that Azealia is hot doesn’t mean that “other” men agree with those colorstruck Black men.

            • March 30, 2015 - Reply

              @Beroa

              Hey Beroa. Stacey Dash is actually Black and African (Cape Verdean), so it baffles me how you actually have deeper insight into her phenotype than she does.

              But I’ll humor you.

              I know even more Black men that find Gabrielle Union hotter than Dash.

              The fact that you’re undesirable to a majority of Black men does not mean they are color-struck. You would have to prove that the vast majority of the >90% Black men married to Black women have light partners, which every one and their mama knows simply isn’t true.

              What does any of this even have to do with what I said? Why do people who claim to be in happy relationships with people of other races consistently make the time to foam at the mouth about about they very people they’re apparently not into? Stop conflating the central argument with your glaring insecurities.

              • March 30, 2015 - Reply

                @TeflonD

                Now why did I just know you were going to bring Gabrielle into this? Of course, Gabrielle is beautiful and and some men would think that Azealia is too, but they’re not Black like you. Gabrielle is the dark skinned Black woman who’s considered by Black men to be “so pretty for a dark girl.” Even Lupita has been stoned by plenty of colorstruck Black men.

                I’m doing just fine in my relationship. Calling me insecure is not going to undo that. Anytime a Black woman pulls back the curtain on the madness of so many Black men, y’all claim we’re insecure to shut us down. I didn’t even know who Azealia Banks was until I read about her here, so I looked her up. She’s speaking much TRUTH. She’s not perfect. She’s complex like most of us. No one here walks a straight line all the time. If you do, then you’re not human.

                You need to look up the word “phenotype.”

                • March 30, 2015 - Reply

                  @Beroa

                  I don’t need to look up any word. I used the term in an argument as it pertains to race, and appropriately so. I believe your discernment is what’s in question here. Especially since you can barely distinguish when I’m referring to you from when I’m not.

                  No one here ever called this airhead ugly. No one brought up complexion until you spilled your insecurity. I think Lupita is beautiful, and you have no idea what I am. You can either prove that these >90% of Black men are with a bunch of Halle Berrys or you can be on your way.

                  Stop making baseless assumptions because you feel rejected.

                  • March 30, 2015 - Reply

                    @TeflonD

                    Cut the Bs! Stop trying to Gaslight! You were the one who brought up Stacey Dash. We all know why Stacey Dash is considered pretty by plenty of Black men and why Azealia would not be considered pretty by many of those same men. AB talks about this herself. Her experiences with Black men, but y’all get butt hurt when she rejects Black men. That’s karma.

                    You can say I feel rejected all you want but my husband is lying right over there in the bed.

                    • March 30, 2015 - Reply

                      @Beroa

                      What’s gaslight? Sorry, I don’t speak emotional drivel.

                      I brought up Stacy Dash to make a subtle point. I’ve basically never seen her with a Black man, but I’ve also never heard her disparage Black men because she probably doesn’t have rejection issues like you and this airhead demonstrably do. Nothing to do with looks or complexion. It’s not my fault that you were too dense and insecure to catch that.

                      Oh. You’re married to a loving white guy and he’s in bed right beside you. And yet you have all the time in the world to run amok foaming at the mouth over random Black men that have no idea you even exist? Go ahead and pat yourself on the back, you winner. You’re not bitter at all lol.

                      Thanks for putting so much effort into proving my point. You’re dismissed.

                      • March 30, 2015 - Reply

                        @TeflonD

                        I know why you brought up Stacey Dash as to say that if AZ looked like her, then Black men would stand in line for her. You’ve been telling some of us all night here how we’ve been rejected by Black men 🙂 You want so bad to believe that that’s the only reason we’re with white men. Anything else would terrify you. You can’t face the fact that some of us PREFER white men because of how they treat us, how they make us feel, how they provide for us and our children, for how we know we can count on them as husbands. These are OUR experiences or at least for some of us.

                        My husband is in bed across the room from me. He went to bed early because he has an early meeting. He works everyday. I don’t have to get in bed just because he’s in bed. I’m not a child. I can stay up as late as I want.

                        I’m just trying to figure out why a Black man like you would have a problem with a Black woman preferring men who treat her the way she wants to be treated rather than getting with men who don’t want her or don’t treat her the way she wants to be treated. Don’t bother trying to respond. You’ve already gotten emotional enough.

                      • April 2, 2015 - Reply

                        @TeflonD

                        “What’s gaslight?”

                        A quality movie. Also, ‘To manipulate events and situations in order to make a person believe that he or she is crazy.’

        • March 31, 2015 - Reply

          @Heather Ferreira

          shaming tactics 101: imply someone is secretly jealous or wants to be with the person they are criticizing, without actually criticizing what they said.

      • March 31, 2015 - Reply

        @TeflonD

        Who’s eye? >90% of Black men who chose to marry, marry Black women. That’s statistics for “it ain’t them; it’s most probably you.”

        If they ever DO get around to marrying!

        • March 31, 2015 - Reply

          @KissOfDanger

          As you and the rest of your gang have stated, no one owes you marriage. No one is forcing you to have a bunch of out of wedlock kids. You do so because you CHOOSE to. To claim otherwise is implicitly admitting that you’re incompetent.

          Now, are you actually going to address anything that I’ve stated in a critical or rational manner?

          Yes, >90% of Black men who marry, choose Black women. If the vast majority of eligible Black men do not find your “successful” self appealing enough to wife up, then then the problem is obviously you. Maybe you’re just not as “high quality” as you think you are. If that’s the case, why not work on yourself? Ragging on happy people that do not even know you will not change a thing.

          The clown up there is complaining about the 3% of dudes scanning “European American” women, while conveniently ignoring the fact that she has FAILED to attract 97% of the eligible men in her pool.

          I’m only concerned with logic, so y’all can miss me with the emotional BS.

          • March 31, 2015 - Reply

            @TeflonD

            “I’m only concerned with logic, so y’all can miss me with the emotional BS.”

            Man you’re the one crying and avoiding all facts.

            • March 31, 2015 - Reply

              @Adriannan Nonyo

              Lol. Stop stalking me all over the place, thirsty gorilla. I see you can’t take a hint. You’re brainless and unwanted. Go somewhere else and rant about the random bums that deserted you and your welfare baits. I have nothing to offer you, and I’m not your absentee father. Stop taking out your bitterness on perfect strangers. I already tried blocking your repulsive intrusions. Consider yourself permanently dismissed.

              • March 31, 2015 - Reply

                @TeflonD

                Stalking? I see a stupid comment and I reply to it, unfortunately most stupid comments I saw was by you. Oh and flagged.

    • March 31, 2015 - Reply

      @Heather Ferreira

      You dont speak for all black women anymore than i speak for all black men.

  18. March 30, 2015 - Reply

    it’s her business!!!!!!!!!!!

  19. March 30, 2015 - Reply

    sort of holding on to the black money — her black supporters who actually buy her stuff — and taking the black money across town to the white establishment. straddling the racial fence, but leaning heavily towards the non-black side 🙂

    • March 30, 2015 - Reply

      @Rizzo

      This girl needs therapy ASAP. As for black money, I’m not buying nor have I ever brought a single thing she’s selling and I’m a black female 🙂

    • March 30, 2015 - Reply

      @Rizzo

      So wait. According to your logic “She dates white men = betrayal of black fans” Tell me how exactly does that work? What does her vagina and her body have to do with money? How does : her dating choices = giving resources to non-blacks? Like explain that to me. Because it sounds like you see her as a object(she’s not dating WHO I WANT HER to date= cutting off resources =gaslighting and manipulation). I sincerely hope you’re not being a misogynoir hypocrite and providing your resources(I.E Money, support, likes, views, etc) towards men like Kanye West, Birdman, Wocka Flocka, 50 cent, Drake, Meek Mill, etc who have advently and openly expressed their attraction to non-bw all the while sh*tting on BW.

      • March 30, 2015 - Reply

        @BubzLife Starlight

        “Waitwaitwaitwait now hold up now but but but b-but but… now wait a minute… THAT DOESN’T COUNT” lol

        Oh lord, truth tea is being served…! You do it! Go Starlight! Hit em again, hammer! Hit em with the truth again!

        “Bam! And kept goin’!”

      • March 30, 2015 - Reply

        @BubzLife Starlight

        It’s no secret that she has a preference for white men. It’s been stated in previous interviews and her song “Licorice.” What’s different this time is that she qualified her remarks by throwing black men under the bus.

        Maybe you’re not familiar with AB’s social media or her public persona in general, but she frequently calls out, what she considers to be white racism and spews black, nationalist rhetoric. She did this one, radio interview on Hot97, where she was crying real tears about appropriation of black culture by whites and how whites were “trying to erase us.” So, for someone to go to all that trouble to vilify whites, then turn around and glorify the ones she wants to sleep with is not without irony. It’s the equivalent of the Klansman with a black, mistress on the side.

        • March 30, 2015 - Reply

          @uhoh-ohno

          “So, for someone to go to all that trouble to vilify whites, then turn around and glorify the ones she wants to sleep with is not without irony. It’s the equivalent of the Klansman with a black, mistress on the side.”

          She’s doing nothing different than plenty of Black men do who talk a whole lotta Black Black Black militant rhetoric and sleep with and marry nothing but the lightest Black women or only NON-Black women. If I started listing the names here, I could fill up the whole page. Look back in the Black Power days at the leaders of the Black Panthers and their string of white women. Then there’s Harry Belafonte, Leroi Jones (Amiri Baraka), plenty other hypocritical Black “militant” men, and of course, let’s not leave out Kanye “militant” West. By your definition, these Black men must be Klansmen too.

          • March 30, 2015 - Reply

            @Beroa

            yes !!! but now it’s all about the vagina, gaslighting, manipulation, resources, misogynoir hypocrites … just like back in the old days only it’s flipped

      • March 30, 2015 - Reply

        @BubzLife Starlight

        her vagina ????????????????????????

      • March 30, 2015 - Reply

        @BubzLife Starlight

        her vagina !!!! ????????? money ???? gaslighting???? object ????manipulation????? misogynoir hypocrite ????? providing resources ???? — what ??????

  20. March 30, 2015 - Reply

    Who cares? Why is it that some black men/women who exclusively constantly feel the need to wax poetic about it? It’s predictable and boring.

    • March 30, 2015 - Reply

      @Pema

      I meant “exclusively date outside of the race”.

  21. March 30, 2015 - Reply

    With the hurt and hard feelings some black men and some black woman have for each other. I think it is actually far more practical and beneficial for all that they stay far away from each other.

    As been stated we don’t own each other so if a black woman feels her safety is put in

    • March 30, 2015 - Reply

      @Brad

      The truth is that people want to be wanted even if they don’t want the people in question. We often just get older, not more mature. Folks get an ego rush from being wanted, and when someone says out of hand that they are not interested in a chunk of the population, it hurts egos even if the person who is expressing interest is not someone that is especially admired.

  22. March 30, 2015 - Reply

    All she did was tell the truth, and she could have said much more. How is it “sad” and “asinine,” especially given that black men ALWAYS talk this way about black women? If she doesn’t want to go home and deal with a black man treating her like crap just because she’s a black woman, which seems to be how it is in over 90% of black relationships, then I don’t blame her.

    • March 30, 2015 - Reply

      @rensational

      Ohhhhhh but “THEY” do! 🙂

      Because she’s famous, she’s successful, and she’s got her own money, and she is slender, still fertile, and considered a “dime”.

      Therefore: Black Male Property

      That bs is what you’re seeing.

      • March 31, 2015 - Reply

        @Heather Ferreira

        Only so she can be pumped and dumpedfor a white girl.

    • March 31, 2015 - Reply

      @rensational

      90 percent of black relationships? where did u get that figure?

  23. March 30, 2015 - Reply

    You nailed it. Sadly I have nothing to add to this.

  24. March 30, 2015 - Reply

    I have no problem whatsoever with Azealia’s dating preferences, and I say that as a woman who is happily married to a black man. Why should a grown a** woman have to explain or defend whom she chooses to date? How many black male entertainers are challenged about their worship of white and nonblack women? Let’s not pretend that BM celebrities haven’t made their preferences known loud and clear. If Azealia wants to exclusively date white men, that is HER business. And Clutch wants to call her out for being “asinine” and having “self-hate”? GTFOH. Do better.

    • March 31, 2015 - Reply

      @Giselle

      The problem is her generalization and hypocrisy…..

      • March 31, 2015 - Reply

        @stewie

        Alot of men practice unfair dating practicises we don’t see you bitching about that.

        • March 31, 2015 - Reply

          @KissOfDanger

          There is no such a thing unfair dating practices, that is idiotic. Everyone have their own preference and it is not a group sport. NO one is compleing about her reference, it is her hateful generalizing that is the problem.

    • April 1, 2015 - Reply

      @Giselle

      You are correct but if she makes these grand announcements to the national media about her avoidance of black men,why is it wrong for us to give our opinions? Just like we do not have to read her announcements, she does not have to read our opinions.

  25. March 30, 2015 - Reply

    See how all these black men are bitching? This is why NO ONE respects them! You all want to blame white men, black women, and homosexual black men. When will you ALL take responsibility. I am a very successful black women. I make millions of dollars a year, and I only date interracial men. EVERY black men that I tried to date (and these are successful black men) always talk about their skin color. “Yeah, because you know it’s hard for a black man .” “The white man is trying to keep us down.” Okay, that’s true. But, it is also hard for gays, women, little people, the disabled, etc. STOP acting like you’re the only group that’s oppressed! Black man cry about “racism,” but is quick to discriminate, and be homophobic. They talk about us black women picking dead beat men. That is true also.However, look at all these black men in the industry uplifting trashy women. A black man will downplay a black woman, and call her “a ghetto, trashy hood rat.” However, run off and date the EXACT same type of white woman. Look at at these rappers dating these trashy women. Amber Rose, Black Chyna, Kim Kardashian, etc. ALL of them are TRASH! Guess what though? They have big butts, so black men don’t care. I have NO respect for black men.

    • March 30, 2015 - Reply

      @WhatHappenedTooUs

      You also can’t spell and your grammar is terrible. I hope you’re not the one working the books on all those millions.

      You went to change your name just to rant, and you couldn’t even get that right. Smh.

      • March 31, 2015 - Reply

        @TeflonD

        I love how when individuals are offended, they spot little things. There were a ton of black men in this comment section, bashing, and tearing her down, and their grammar was also “terrible.” Why would you expect this to be written like a letter to the president? Also, what do you mean by saying, “You went to change your name just to rant, and couldn’t even get that right?” Who am I suppose to be? I know how to write, spell, etc. I am not an illiterate human being. Since you want to be technical, your grammar is not formal at all. You do not use abbreviations and contractions, when writing formal English.

        • March 31, 2015 - Reply

          @WhatHappenedTooUs

          Thats coming from a dude who believes this black woman deserves an intervention for not being attracted to black men. Lol seriously look a few comments above.

          • March 31, 2015 - Reply

            @Adriannan Nonyo

            Lol. The airhead needs intervention because she’s spazzing out on every social outlet contradicting herself. Stating she is all about Black empowerment and hates white people while dating old white dudes that consistently sh!t on her.. because Black guys take Black women for granted.

            Her words, not mine.

            She never said she wasn’t attracted to Black men, you angry reject. The fact that you lay around all day putting things in your mouth doesn’t mean you have to come online to try doing the same to other people. Stop stalking me, simple-minded liar. No one cares about your lonely and bitter life or the imaginary men you wish you had. I was biting my tongue before, but I’m sorry I don’t deal with brainless dolts without two neurons to rub together. We are not in the same league. Go away.

            • March 31, 2015 - Reply

              @TeflonD

              Wow. You’re done crying? Its funny seeing a grown man throwing a temper tantrum like a little boy.

        • March 31, 2015 - Reply

          @WhatHappenedTooUs

          “I am a very successful black women. I make millions of dollars a year, and I only date interracial men.”

          Said no millionaire, ever.

          • March 31, 2015 - Reply

            @TeflonD

            “Said no millionaire, ever.” That is such a funny statement. A ton of millionaires have made that statement. Why would I want to date a thug, jail bird, baby daddy, etc? I am better than that. I used to respect black men, but in recent years, I have lost all respect. The way these fools act on television, in public, and on the internet is ridiculous. Of course there is black women that act like fools too. However, the black women aren’t suppose to be the leaders. The way that black men behave is bringing down the youth. Our youth look up to mostly dead beat black men. When will you losers take responsibility? When will you losers stop blaming everyone except yourselves? You all bitch and cry over everything. Everything hurts black men feelings. The nation is tired of black men complaining! Why would anyone respect a man, who is always crying “racism?” If you are tired of “white supremacy,” the stop needing them! Don’t bash them, then turn around and ask them for a job. Stop relying on them! That is what I did. Oh, I forgot. I am a black woman. Successful black women might bring up the fact that “they are successful black women, and they had to break down barriers.” However, a successful black man will sell his own race out. Black men think that “they need white men to be successful.” That is not true! Get your own businesses.

            • March 31, 2015 - Reply

              @WhatHappenedTooUs

              Lol. If the irony of that quotation is STILL lost on you, then you’re entirely too dumb to run any kind of business, sorry.

              You self-hating clowns stay embarrassing yourselves. What in the world is an “interracial man?” And what in the world are you talking about with your stupid generalizations when Black men have an average net worth significantly higher than Black women? Including public assistance. Are you truly this stupid?

              You sound really hurt. You can’t even seem to make a simple point without bringing up how much imaginary money you make or the imaginary men after you. Textbook symptom of an inferiority complex. Out here crying about not being able to land successful Black men. I’m not sure what kind of delusion would make a halfway illiterate feel so entitled, but you really need to grow up, leave those stupid pundits that gas up your low self esteem alone, and go get a GED or something because you sure ain’t fooling no one.

              No successful man wants to be anywhere close to a mumbling idiot. Get a clue. This will be my last response to you.

            • March 31, 2015 - Reply

              @WhatHappenedTooUs

              Lol. If the irony of that quotation is STILL lost on you, then you’re entirely too dumb to run any kind of business, sorry.

              You self-hating clowns stay embarrassing yourselves. What in the world is an “interracial man?” And what in the world are you talking about with your stupid generalizations when Black men have an average net worth significantly higher than Black women? Including public assistance. Look it up. Are you truly this stupid?

              You sound really hurt. You can’t even seem to make a simple point without bringing up how much imaginary money you make or the imaginary men after you. Textbook symptom of an inferiority complex. Again, I only deal with fact, so you bitter clowns should be prepared to get embarrassed when you come at me sideways. Out here crying about not being able to land successful Black men. I’m not sure what kind of delusion would make a halfway illiterate feel so entitled, but you really need to grow up, leave those stupid pundits that gas up your low self esteem alone, and go get a GED or something because you sure ain’t fooling no one.

              No successful man wants to be anywhere close to a mumbling idiot. Get a clue. This will be my last response to you.

              • March 31, 2015 - Reply

                @TeflonD

                I never said that I was not “able to land a successful black man.” The successful black men that I come across aren’t of quality. How could I be “hurt?” You are really putting words in my mouth. I have never dated a black man in my life. I refuse to. Also, you talk about “black women having the lowest net worth.” SINGLE black women with children have the lowest net worth. That is because, low life dead beat black men leaves them. However, Blacks make up only 3.2% of lawyers, 3% of doctors, and less than 1% of architects in America.
                Many of these are Black women. I know a lot of black women in college to become medical engineers, doctors, psychologists, etc. Do you think that your net worth will be higher than theirs? You bringing up that fact is not news. Anyone that read statistics knows that fact. There are a ton of black men missing from college campuses. Although, us black women outnumber black men, that should not be an excuse as to why there is a huge gap between us in the professional field.

              • April 1, 2015 - Reply

                @TeflonD

                Look tard: Stop blaming Black women because you are SO SCARED and INTIMATED by WHITE MEN that you would gladly let them beat you like a dog in the street in front of everyone before you’d ever fight back LIKE A MAN. Get your life, you fucking bxtch azz black “man”.

                • April 1, 2015 - Reply

                  @mmmdot

                  Lol. Angry chimp on the loose. The zoo keepers must be on vacay today.

                  • April 1, 2015 - Reply

                    @TeflonD

                    LMAO!! And the police and pretty much EVERYONE ELSE IN AMERICA uses YOUR black “male” monkey azz for target practice, you savage zoo creature. So why don’t you do the world a favor and WALK OUTSIDE, so you can die in a hail of bullets. Mmmkay?

                  • April 1, 2015 - Reply

                    @TeflonD

                    Everyone: exhibit A of the typical bitch azz, misogynistic black male troll that haunts websites for Black women. It constantly harasses, harangues, trolls Black women wherever it goes. It makes the most STUPID assumptions about ALL Black women’s sexuality known to man [while being PSYCHOTICALLY abusive about it like some kind of frothing beast] just because it’s little bitch azz is CLEARLY insecure, scared, and intimidated by WHITE MEN. It constantly exhibits nothing but depraved, wimpy, cowardly, unmanly, sissified bitch azz behavior. It’s disgusting, but we should study it in it’s natural habitat – the county jail – so we can learn how to destroy it once and for all.

    • March 31, 2015 - Reply

      @WhatHappenedTooUs

      Well, I make trillions of dollars a years and I only date Kligons women.

    • April 1, 2015 - Reply

      @WhatHappenedTooUs

      I would imagine that the feeling is mutual.

  26. March 31, 2015 - Reply

    The term “gaslight” or “gaslighting” is being used in this thread. For the people who don’t know, it is reference to the plot of a 1944 movie starring Ingrid Bergman and Charle Boyer called Gaslight. A very good movie I must say. And for the people who can’t watch a movie without black people in it, there are none. But silly me, I can watch a movie without black people if the story line is good.

    • March 31, 2015 - Reply

      @Tony

      I have absolutely no problem watching movies that don’t contain blacks because in reality not all American households and situations actually involve blacks. The movies that i refuse to watch are the ones that don’t include blacks because of racist restrictions like all whites movies like Gaslight. How can ANY black person enjoy a movie production that projects the racist idea that we did not exist or were not good enough to be in their company unless we had a broom in hand and on our knees?

      • April 1, 2015 - Reply

        @harold jack

        Well, just refuse to watch.

      • April 1, 2015 - Reply

        @harold jack

        there are some excellent ‘old’ movies that black people have played minor roles, or subservient roles, that actually made the movie; i.e., casablanca (dooley wilson), mildred pierce (butterfly mcqueen), whatever happened to baby jane (maidie norman) the petrified forest (slim thompson), etc.
        two excellent movies – the maltese falcon and night of the hunter had no black people, but the plot and story lines are excellent. the only thing black in the maltese falcon was the statue. night of the hunter and do the right thing have something in common.
        frank silvera was an excellent actor who appeared in a lot of movies and a few of alfred hitchcock’s series. the awesome juano hernandes appeared in the movie the pawnbroker and an alfred hitchcock series entitled an occurrence at owl creek bridge ….

  27. March 31, 2015 - Reply

    She is the female version of Kanye West, they both talk out of both sides of their mouths of complaining about white supremacy and privilege but secretly and not so secretly want to be accepted by white people desperately. But with this said I hope this white guy at home that doesn’t fight with her are riding with her in the grand scheme of things.

    • March 31, 2015 - Reply

      @binks

      You’re correct to some extent (hypocrisy & acceptance). But Kanye West actually dated Black women and does not disparage them. And Kanye is infinitely more talented.

      Also, this girl is a confused liar. She says she exclusively dates white guys. She’s also on record whining about horrible experiences with these guys. Yet it’s the Black men that are allegedly not on her radar that she has a problem with. That’s like Madonna getting beaten black and blue by Sean Penn, only to turn around and call Black men violent because a gang of Black men dissed her. Some people just can’t think through rejection.

      She needs therapy / an intervention before it’s too late.

      • March 31, 2015 - Reply

        @TeflonD

        Ia disagree just becuase Kanye dated “black” didn’t mean that he didn’t despise them or shoved them to the side until his precious white whorelet came into his life.

      • March 31, 2015 - Reply

        @TeflonD

        Gold-digger is a not so subtle jibe at a common trope in Black America.

    • March 31, 2015 - Reply

      @binks

      As a result I refuse to support either due to their hypocrisy

  28. March 31, 2015 - Reply

    Clearly, this pitch has mental issues. Hypocrite too!

  29. March 31, 2015 - Reply

    She’s entitled to her preference.

  30. March 31, 2015 - Reply

    And? What the hell is the point of this article? Do you realize how many misogynistic Black males have LITERALLY been making a career out of SPECIFICALLY hating and denigrating the humanity of Black women online for YEARS now?!? What she said was tame in comparison to the HARASSMENT, HATRED, and OPPRESSION many Black men are subjecting Black women to online.

    Many Black men are often completely blind to their own male privilege and are hostile and insensitive to Black women’s lived experiences – what it’s like to be dominated and oppressed by men of your own race and class while SIMULTANEOUSLY facing anti-blackness and misogyny from white society. Women are systematically oppressed and abused by the men they share every social characteristic EXCEPT biological sex and that why it is NEVER acceptable to let misogyny genuflect before racism. Many Black men committed to anti-racism deploy anti-black misogyny against Black women. Black women are more likely to be raped, murdered, and beaten than any other group of women in America – most of their attackers are Black men. Dark-skinned, outspoken, troubled, and flawed Black women like Azealia Banks are a FAVORITE target for Black men who abuse Black women. Why don’t you write about that?

    I’ve been speaking to other black woman about this and many of us have agreed that we never knew how much some black men literally HATED black women, and ONLY black women, until we came online. On IG and Twitter and on blogs and websites, they’re constantly trolling, harassing, and denigrating black women. Instead of defending us from the COUNTLESS misogynistic black males who PUBLICLY degrade us like Tommy Sotomayor, Tariq Nasheed, SargeWilyPete, the so-called “good” brothers ONLY seem to come out of the woodwork to derail and diminish black women who confront this misogyny. Why don’t you create some articles about them instead of harping on Azealia for trying to survive as best as she can in a world that LITERALLY hates Black women, especially dark-skinned ones?

    • March 31, 2015 - Reply

      @mmmdot

      Defection and generalization ….

      And you need to learn the definition of misogyny. criticizing black women and their behavior is NOT misogyny. . If anything It is you are misandrist and anti black men.

      • March 31, 2015 - Reply

        @stewie

        I repeat: “instead of defending us from the COUNTLESS misogynistic black
        males who PUBLICLY degrade us like Tommy Sotomayor, Tariq Nasheed, SargeWilyPete, the so-called “good” brothers ONLY seem to come out of the woodwork to derail and diminish black women who confront this misogyny.” Let me tell you something you childish, immature, and PSYCHOTIC misogynistic asshole: stop haranguing, harassing, and lecturing at black women on websites for black women. If your supposedly “clean-cut” psycho ass is constantly trolling black women on NUMEROUS websites for black women, then *something* is wrong with you. Period. Furthermore, as a HUMAN BEING and as a BLACK WOMAN I have every fucking right to express my TRUE FEELINGS about the unwarranted, systematic, misogynistic ABUSE and OPPRESSION being inflicted upon black women and girls by black men. Period.

        I’ll be expressing my true thoughts and feelings about this HATEFUL, VIOLENT, SYSTEMATIC ABUSE wherever I want to, however the fuck I want to, and whenever the fuck I want to – ESPECIALLY here on a WEBSITE for BLACK WOMEN. Get a fucking life, stop harassing Black women, and stop fucking trolling me. Understand? Back the fuck off.

        • March 31, 2015 - Reply

          @mmmdot

          Can you repeat that? You lost me at Futhermore

          • March 31, 2015 - Reply

            @harold jack

            Low-life trolling Black women like a psychotic, insecure loser, says what?

      • March 31, 2015 - Reply

        @stewie

        Furthermore, misandry is a word that DOESN’T EXIST in ANY kind of reality. You’d know that if you actually researched it instead of HARASSING and attempting to SILENCE Black women on a website FOR Black women. This is from an article about how misogynistic racist white males have used the fake azz word “misandry” to blatantly infiltrate our DICTIONARIES [including Oxford] and our popular cultural vocabulary

        http://adonismirror .com/10152006_leader_misandry_and_misanthropy.htm

        “Misandry: From the Dictionary of Fools” By Richard Leader

        “While men have long enjoyed attacking ungrateful women as “man haters,” the epithet… lacks the gravitas required to reflect the widespread injury and social disadvantages that many WHITE MALES believe they endure on a daily basis. Thus a more scientific-sounding term was needed for “the hatred of men” and antifeminists crafted one out of their own perverted imagination of antiquity: misandry….Cobbled together from two generally recognizable Greek components, “misandry” has the appearance of consequence and refinement. Words with such roots are privileged in our society. They are used by doctors and lawyers, not out of necessity, but as a matter of status: they can view their own image in that mirror of history, standing tall with the great men of the ages. The capital letters we afford to Classical Civilization is an artifact of BOTH RACISM and SEXISM. That very same authority, unearned as it is, was harnessed in order to fashion the word misandry. As it is an unfamiliar term to most who encounter it, many automatically assume that it has sound intellectual underpinnings given our society’s expectations for such words and the biases that surround them. This is no accident.

        “Furthermore, the archaic roots misrepresent misandry’s status as a new word, a neologism: antifeminists want nothing more than to mislead the public into thinking the word has always existed. With the seed of that deception planted, they can then blame its esoteric status on a feminist conspiracy that quietly removed misandry from our vernacular, just as reports of abusive women and battered men are allegedly censored by the agents of Political Correctness. This tactic has actually met with a good measure of success: many who encounter “misandry” for the first time are given cause to wonder why they have never before heard a word that is made to seem “obvious” in nature by its proponents. By adding a veneer of Pentelic marble to “man hater,” these men are able to act as if “misandry” were an unearthed treasure waiting to be found and not a newly minted piece of plastic….The word and its variations (misandric, misandrist, et. al) were first used only by the most militant of antifeminists, where even the most published and professional remained outliers in male society. One early adopter of “misandry” was Warren Farrell, a man who once wrote on the benefits of incest for Penthouse magazine. Yet its constant repetition over the past decade has turned it from the battle-cry of the pathetic to a banal trivia question. It serves as the answer to “what is the opposite of misogyny,” a rhetorical question often posed to the editors of online-dictionaries by readers, all seemingly possessed of unlimited quantities of mock-innocence. Misandry’s less combustible presentation has allowed it to surge ahead of competing antifeminist devices (“androphobia”) that have since fallen by the wayside.”

        “As the Coin Defense is misandry’s best chance at achieving some measure of linguistic legitimacy, at least in the popular imagination, it has been necessary for men to pave over a number of inconsistencies. The word “misanthropy” proved to be the largest stumbling block. As it was also a likely candidate for the “opposite of misogyny,” men eagerly rewrote its definition, not just in our own language but in Ancient Greek as well. If misanthropy now means the “hatred of people or humanity” and is unequivocally gender-neutral, it is a very recent innovation..Beyond etymology, something only made relevant by the Coin Defense and its claims for “misanthropy,” the most counterfeit feature of misandry can be found in its stark definition. Proponents insist that its meaning is simply, without further adornment or explanation, “the hatred of men.” Yet it has never been used to describe such hatred in general terms. While pro-feminists are sporadically accused of misandry, it is clear that the word, as it is used in the real world, more accurately means the “hatred of men by women.”…Men despise each other in great numbers. They hate one another for being better at being men—and for being worse at being men. They often hate themselves for that very same reason. Murder rates certainly bear witness to this hatred and perhaps the more-masculine-than-not root of “homicide” serves equally as a grim testament to this fact…It would be more correct to say the “hatred of man by women,” not only for grammatical reasons, but because the only “hatred of men” that men themselves consider truly threatening is the hatred of iconic masculinity and patriarchy.”

        “In this light, the origin of the Coin Defense becomes even clearer: antifeminists believe in a SEX-WAR, where males and females have been forever locked in a struggle for advantage. They see HISTORY as a SITCOM where men and women have always provoked each other in equal amounts, mathematically balancing pleasure and pain across gender lines, despite the momentary inequalities that arise. Coins flip and pendulums swing. They see domestic violence as a “dance,” where both sides are similarly at fault—a dance
        where men, incited to acts of violence by “codependent” women, suffer in
        amounts equal to their victims. In this world view, there are misogynists on
        one side of the coin, misandrists on the other, while the “good” people of the
        world recognize that the coin is forever spinning and simply accept their fate,
        heads or tails, as natural. ”

        “There has never been any such sex-war with evenly drawn lines, however, just as there was never a battle between Pompeii and Mount Vesuvius….The word misogyny was created long ago within a patriarchal culture. It was not invented by feminists. It was designed not to protect women, but men, separating good patriarchs—who were nevertheless patriarchs—from the bad. Those were the men who went too far, who needed be too rude or too rough in order to control the women they held as property; their failure was sign of weakness and infirmity. “Misogynist” was as an insult towards men who were, in a sense, women, possessing the worst traits of femininity: irrationality and a lack of restraint in behavior or appetite. The word misandry was also created in a patriarchy, as a specific, momentary solution to a problem faced by antifeminist men.”

        “They simply lacked a sophisticated enough word to describe their complaints against complaining women.The idea of misandry in a patriarchal culture is a preposterous one. Nearly all of the examples of misandry cited by so-called “masculists” (another “coin” invention) are actually things that benefit men as a class, even if individual men sometimes believe they have suffered harm. While it is popular to complain about women being awarded custody of children, on a larger scale, it preserves male power in other arenas, allowing men to explain away the “wage gap.” Males might have higher rates of successful suicide attempts—though, clearly, it is the personally unaffected who are able to spend their time complaining about this particular disadvantage—but that also stems from a number of other privileges that men enjoy: greater access to firearms and the license to often act selfishly without concern for their dependents…”

        “…Random House is firm that while they have a responsibility to not offend their readers, as linguists they are committed to not misrepresenting the language “as it really is” by omitting such words or how they are used in society. Yet that is precisely the behavior that Sheidlower is engaging in. He was willing to whitewash “misandry” and the politics that inform the discussion, all so he could weigh in as an unbiased expert with a neutral opinion. He stripped out the problematic layers in order to make it a word on par with “apple” and not “homicide-bomber.”….While that ridiculous expression, meaningless as it might be, is now synonymous with the Bush administration and FOX News, antifeminists have had no shortage of expert help in wiping their fingerprints off of “misandry.”…”

        “As words, misandry and homicide-bomber have everything in common. Both are attempts to deliberately reframe an existing concept: neither makes any empirical sense without prior knowledge of “misogyny” and “suicide-bomber” as a reference point. Both attempt to invert power structures through their
        rhetoric: women and developing nations are seen as cowardly oppressors who
        refuse to honorably fight, and lose, on an uneven footing. Both are also tied
        to specific political groups: antifeminists and American conservatives. Yet
        while one term is a laughing stock of the liberal community, misandry has been
        making significant headway…Not only have the men of the Left been receptive of the antifeminist message, as otherwise competing male-demographics are held together by the one privilege they hold in common, feminist women have sometimes found themselves using “misandry” as well. In many ways that is to be expected: they, too, are products of a society that affords status to words
        that merely sound “elite,” something the creators of “misandry” capitalized on…this happens more frequently in “progressive” circles where racism and institutional-racism are no longer considered equivalent expressions…”

        “The existence and legitimacy of “misandry” is not a minor point of contention or a mere triviality of language…Instead, it speaks to male control of history, a currency that only groups in power are allowed to spend. Even the most ignorant of white men are allowed to view themselves as a consummate
        experts on the past, present, and future. It is no exaggeration to use the word “cocksure” when describing a layman’s insistence that “misanthropy” means this or that, “this” or “that” being whatever he needs it to mean in a given moment: his authority is derived from the interplay between modern and ancient man—and the fiction of masculinity that bonds them together. It is of vital important to undermine and disrupt that authority.”

  31. March 31, 2015 - Reply

    From personal experience, I’ve heard quite a few Black men say similar about Black women in the past to justify their reasons for dating White women (i.e. Black women are golddiggers, ‘angry’ and ‘bossy’). Yet apparently, that seems to be OK… nobody bats an eyelid. It’s seen as a ‘preference’. However, all Hell usually seems to break loose should a Black woman say the same about a Black man.

    Standards be doublin’. I find the racial negativity from both genders within the Black (primarily American) community quite disgusting. Thanks to @disqus_KdI2f8HKIH:disqus for being seemingly the only one to be vocally espying of this.

  32. March 31, 2015 - Reply

    I have dated all kinds. Men are men at the end of the day. Believe you me. Find a good one who loves his mother and respects women and you’ll be fine. Stay away from the ones who hate women! STAY AWAY! Issues. Black, white, green, whatever.

  33. March 31, 2015 - Reply

    Ehhh more like backwards logic to me than self-hate. Anyway, you got to remember broken clock syndrome with her.

  34. March 31, 2015 - Reply

    It’s exhausting to go back and forth with so-called “conscious” black men that never accept that a large group of their brethren continue to perpetuate colorism, separatism, divisiveness whether it be their continual black woman bashing, their refusal to address the pedestal they continue to hold up of certain women and their overall inability to self reflect how their so-called choices and preferences weren’t created in a vacuum. So 9 out of 10 of y’all prefer “bad light skin b*tches?” As *insert crappy rap song of the moment would suggest. Hmm all of you feel this way? Interesting. Ever ask yourself why that is? Probably not “cause you like what you like, right?” So many men do everything to show off in some fashion and anything other than a black women is win to many. Mind you I never said all but for the black men on this site who claim this doesn’t apply to them please don’t behave as if so many black men don’t behave and think this way. Stop telling black women to make better choices when you should be talking to your cousins and encouraging them to wake the F up. And I have never been a black male basher because I know way too many awesome BM but to continuously expect black women to do EVERYTHING, make all of the changes is getting annoying while so many of you remain unchanged from your damaging thinking.

  35. March 31, 2015 - Reply

    She’s a bipolar wig wearing mammy.

  36. March 31, 2015 - Reply

    The thirst is real.

    #Food4Thot

  37. March 31, 2015 - Reply

    The fact of the matter is, this young woman has the right to date whomever she wishes.

  38. March 31, 2015 - Reply

    Up until now i supported her while ranted and raved about culture theft, etc I officially withdraw my support. Bxtch!!!

  39. March 31, 2015 - Reply

    It’s sad how this article brought on this Black gender battle. I said this in another article about Banks, she complain about TI caping for Iggy, but brags about White suitors in her music, smh. There are crappy men in all complexions, cultures, religions, education levels, etc. I learned this through dating Black, Asian, Latin (of all hues), White, broke, college educated, unemployed or working on Wall Street, potheads, straight edge, vegan, Jew, atheist, Mormon, with kids, without…you get my point. I learned to look at the role I played in my mishaps. You really have to know yourself, and stop trying to pull someone that’s pushing you away. Desperation is attractive to NO one. Glad I have a guy now, and he actually shows me respect. Before I settled just to have a guy, period. And my guy is Black. My brother’s wife is Black, so it’s nice to be reminded despite social media, Blacks aren’t all at war with each other in relationships.

    The main point of the article: don’t be a hypocrite.

    • April 1, 2015 - Reply

      @TastyTaco

      You pretty much said what I wish I said at the beginning. Too many people blame the people they date or want for their bad choices. Way too many black folks in the spotlight talk badly about white people in one breath, and then spend their nights wrapped up in white arms. No matter with whom anybody chooses to spend their time, the key to happiness is self esteem and self respect.

      • April 1, 2015 - Reply

        @Anthony

        As I said “black advocates by day while being white advocates by night”.

        It goes for both men and woman from her to Kanye West.

      • April 1, 2015 - Reply

        @Anthony

        Yes, but Black men must pounce on Black men hypocrites just as fast and FEROCIOUSLY as they pounce on Black women hypocrites. If they did that, I wouldn’t say anything. If Black men had done that all along, we wouldn’t have all of these vile creatures like Kevin Hart and the Youtube Black male creatures vomiting their mess about Black women.

        Look what it’s taken here at Clutch to get SOME of you Black men to even mention anything about Black men hypocrites. It’s so sad that some of us women have had to TELL you how you should respond to men who attack Black women! Why do women need to tell you men that you must protect Black women?

        • April 1, 2015 - Reply

          @Beroa

          Honestly this is a black woman’s site and you have no idea what some black men including myself do on black male sites or in person.

          I myself am far more aggressive than I would ever dare or wish to be with other black men online and especially in person.

          • April 1, 2015 - Reply

            @Brad

            Sorry if your feelings are hurt but I didn’t mention YOU. Don’t you think it’s time for Blacks to be HONEST? It’s time for somebody to ask Black men some hardball questions and it’s time for Black men in general to be honest. Black men in general (not saying you) are obviously doing a crappy job. If not, there wouldn’t be nearly this level of fartherlessness and that’s what causes most of the most intractable problems among the Black collective. No one needs to know what each individual Black man is doing or not doing because it all adds up.

            Blacks in America live in a fishbowl. Black men are supposed to be the protectors and LEADERS of the Black collective. They claim to want to be seen and respected as men but they don’t generally protect or lead. The reason why Black women and children are under direct attack from other collectives is because Black men in general or the vast majority of them are quiet and act feeble minded and are almost all MIAs when Black women and children in general are attacked. And then, on top of that, many of y’all have the audacity to blame Black women for not holding it ALL down.

            • April 1, 2015 - Reply

              @Beroa

              Have to agree with a lot of what you are saying, we as black men should be much stronger advocates and protectors and providers to black woman.

    • April 1, 2015 - Reply

      @TastyTaco

      “There are crappy men in all complexions, cultures, religions, education levels, etc.”

      Fact! But let’s get honest for once. We’re talking about proportion. It’s obvious that there’s a much higher proportion of crappy Black men in this country because all you have to do is look at the Black collective and the sky-high fatherlessness there.

      • April 1, 2015 - Reply

        @Beroa

        I would suggest learning about some of the dispensable behavior done to woman in many Arabic countries or even some other South American countries before writing off that black men in America are the worse the world has ever seen.

      • April 1, 2015 - Reply

        @Beroa

        My father was a lousy husband to my mother (my parents are Blacks from the Caribbean). I would have left waaay sooner than she did. But her staying is why I came to exist. I’m fortunate my father wasn’t abusive towards her or molesting me and my siblings. He is guilty of being neglectful, bad with money and a two-timing baby maker. I love my siblings (who resulted from his affairs), we’re very close. BUT I would not want to be a wife to someone who barely pays bills and impregnating various women on the low, like my mother was. Occasionally I came across guys with the same narcissistic traits as my dad, and there not with me now. Hindsight is a beautiful thing, it helps put the good in “goodbye” cause I don’t need those people to keep lying to me. Let me focus on someone who is truly focused on me. I’m not worried about the bad, Black men. I’m just hopeful to build with the good one I have now.

        • April 1, 2015 - Reply

          @TastyTaco

          beautifully stated

        • April 1, 2015 - Reply

          @TastyTaco

          Usually in these forums, the focus is on the welfare of the collective because if the collective is in a cancerous state, then that will eventually make all the individuals sick to an extent. I didn’t come from an ideal home either and I still found a good guy. My sisters and female cousins didn’t. Many Black women are not finding good guys and that is usually the beginning of a downfall or slippery slope for a woman and children.

          It’s just crazy for Blacks to keep blaming Black women, saying “Well, she should have chosen a GOOD BLACK MAN.”

          Where are all of those GOOD BLACK MEN hiding? It’s ridiculous for Blacks to keep acting like there are so many GOOD Black men that Black women are ignoring. Just by the law of averages, half of Black women should get a “GOOD Black man. Right? But we all know, IF we’re honest, that those men don’t exist, aside from a small number. Why do we keep lying to Black women about this hyped up huge number of GOOD Black men and then blame them when they choose a crappy one?

          It’s time for Blacks to look at our interior and be more honest.

          • April 1, 2015 - Reply

            @Beroa

            You do realize that what is good or a good black man or good black woman for that matter is completely and utterly subjective.

            I mean you are not able to go quantify how many good or bad black men or woman there are available.

            It is a great many black married, cohabitating, in a long term relationship black couples out there for anyone to claim failure.

            • April 1, 2015 - Reply

              @Brad

              I realize that some women think that men who are serial killers are good men, but there is such a thing as a man who would be considered GOOD relationship material by most women. The women I know are not looking for a perfect man, but they do expect him to be able to pull AT LEAST a low B-grade when it comes to being ambitious, disciplined, sensible, thoughtful, tender with his woman, trustworthy, reliable, committed to woman and children, provider, protector, and planner for the family, have some leadership skills. Note that males who come from fatherless homes are likely to get failing grades in those area because they need male figures to make them that way. Not all, but if we’re honest, we already know that most of them are not going to pull a passing grade in these areas.

              • April 1, 2015 - Reply

                @Beroa

                Then wouldn’t that include the black women coming from the exact same fatherless homes?

                This is something I hear all the time from black men making the same comparisons you are making.

                • April 1, 2015 - Reply

                  @Brad

                  Lots of women are impacted negatively by not having a father in the home but not to the extent that the males are impacted and not in the same critical ways. There are key differences if you notice and read the findings. Most Black females have had ongoing exposure to at least ONE or have a variety of decent, upright female role models whether it’s their mother, aunt, teacher. Many Black males have had NO ongoing exposure to an upright, involved male role model due to mass fatherlessness in the Black collective.

                  Many Black males have therefore been socialized to be females and they can’t help that because that’s who they’re around almost exclusively during their formative years. Females. I can always tell when I’m dealing with a male who’s a socialized female. Not talking about male homosexuals. These two are different.Just notice the way some males (not you) behave in these online forums. They stick out as socialized females.

                  When Black males compare themselves to Black females, that is one example of socialized female behavior because men are supposed to be LEADERS. Why would they compare themselves to those who they’re supposed to lead? Women naturally copy males but males don’t NORMALLY copy or compare themselves to females.

                  Good chat but I’m done with this.

                  • April 2, 2015 - Reply

                    @Beroa

                    Interesting point…

                    I have to admit you may be on to something because I notice some of test as well but, I still think there are negative impacts for your girls growing up with out fathers as well.

                    Can two damage people come together and strive? Of course it is happening every day.

    • April 1, 2015 - Reply

      @TastyTaco

      No we are in no way all at war with each other and in fact the mast majority of black men and woman are no more at odds with each other than any other race. I think you just have elements that scream louder, male and female.

      They do it for their own personal gain and draw all of the attention to them selves. I mean look at how some black men and woman have created and entire industry behind trashing each other.

  40. March 31, 2015 - Reply

    I don’t care who she dates. Just really surprised considering her past comments towards white people. Confusing.

  41. April 1, 2015 - Reply

    Oh lord… I hear about this chicks comments often and personally I think she says most of this shit for attention. I remember how I was when I was 20 years old and I thank the good lord that twitter and instagram wasn’t a thing 🙂 I’m interested in hearing some of her views when shes older and wiser. Im not saying that interracial dating is something you grow out of.. Im just saying that she will realize that all attention isnt good attention.

  42. April 2, 2015 - Reply

    whatever. Black men say that to us all the time. Why is everyone up in their feelings because she says it back? I am not here for this young lady, but really why can’t she say what she feels?

  43. April 2, 2015 - Reply

    As a woman of color, I can see where she’s coming from. I never chose *not* to date men of color, they just never stepped to me, to quote Roxane Gay on why she also doesn’t date black men. I would have loved to date a Latino, or a black man. My first boyfriend was Indian, but after that, it was all beardy white dudes. Not a choice, it’s just the only kind of man who wanted me.

  44. April 2, 2015 - Reply

    That tyra gif though

  45. April 2, 2015 - Reply

    GIRL BYE!

  46. April 2, 2015 - Reply

    It’s funny, when Black men post and show how much they can’t stand us and why they’ve left us alone…..crickets. When a Black woman gives her reasons for leaving Black men alone, however shallow they may be………a fu*king firestorm.

  47. April 3, 2015 - Reply

    I see no self-hate here. Just a dark skinned Black woman that knows Black men love white women and “Spanish” girls. So she dates other men.

  48. April 4, 2015 - Reply

    And that is the sound of NO ONE caring what she has to say about anything. She’s a moron who spends more time feuding on social media than actually making music.

  49. April 4, 2015 - Reply

    I do fell where she coming from though. Black women are generally not seen as desirable and as amazing as they really are. More so by black men though.

  50. April 4, 2015 - Reply

    I guess I have a lot to say about this, but I can’t put it into words. If she truly believes that men of other races respect women more so than black men, I feel sorry for her. But who cares, she is 23 and has a lot to learn. I hope black guys take notice and leave her alone, especially after she eventually gets crapped on by a white dude. Has nothing to do with race, has more to do with poor decisions as far as dating. Next thing she will say is all men don’t respect women and she is going to turn to women only. It never fails.

    Isn’t this the same woman that was complaining about White rappers stealing from hip hop culture? I really think she is confused and needs to mature mentally.

  51. April 5, 2015 - Reply

    This is so sad. Maybe the black men she’s dated took HER for granted. That doesn’t reflect an entire set of men but hey, she’s grown and this is her belief. She’s entitled to that. It’s almost like, everything that comes out her mouth is somehow inflammatory. Everyone’s allowed to date who they want like the writer said but I really believe no one can love a black woman like a black man can and vice versa.

  52. April 5, 2015 - Reply

    In a recent interview with Billboard magazine, Azealia Banks confessed to a major crush on President Obama.

    “He’s so fine,” declared Banks. “Those big-ass white teeth and ears hanging off his head? I’m like, ‘Oh my God, I want to f— the President.’ ”

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